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Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
Check Fox News for Coverage. Man shot below rib cage, at hospital, pulled through operation as the bullet was recovered. He is stable, concious, in critical condition.

Shooter is armed and at large in the woods. He called a friend after the shooting and mentioned that he just slit his wrist in the woods.

[ April 07, 2005, 13:30: Message edited by: Peaser01 ]
 
Posted by Art on :
 
Heard he had a terminal illnes and was distraught.
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
Apparently he does. It was the local HS Football coach who was shot. The shooter had an incident with the coach in 2003 and was banned from school grounds, a restraining order was in effect.
 
Posted by ohdagagain on :
 
Its Texas, thats not too strange, alot of Texans would blame the coach!
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
They just took the guy into custody.
 
Posted by Leinad on :
 
People with guns kill people.

In Canada, this kind of madness could not happen.

No guns in circulation.

Just a tought.
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
The Texas Rangers tracked the guy by intercepting his cell phone conversation with a friend.
 
Posted by Art on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leinad:
People with guns kill people.

In Canada, this kind of madness could not happen.

No guns in circulation.

Just a tought.

No guns in circulation - funny. You mean only the criminals have guns in circulation.

The harm caused by trying to restrict guns, in terms of leaving innocents defenseless against criminals, is far greater than the harm caused by allowing law abiding citizens to have guns. Canadians will get the high crime rate of England and Wales in the future, where only criminals have guns.

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Posted by Leinad on :
 
I knew you would respond.... [Smile]

Try changing your point of view.

Has of now, should the referees have guns on the field to defend themselves ???

By your thinking, yes.

This leads to an escalation.....
 
Posted by Art on :
 
I go with the facts and realistic interpretation of same, and not with emotion.

Your emotional thinking is "guns = bad".

My realistic thinking is "guns = good" when law abidding citizens have them and "guns = bad" only in the hands of criminals. Gun control reduces the good guns far, far more than it reduces the bad guns, and this results in more bad than good.

BTW: The last time I was in Montreal I was robbed while sleeping in a hotel. The robbers used a hotel key and did it while I was asleep, leaving quickly on my waking up - they ran down the hall and got away. Obviously they got the key from a hotel employee, but the police could do nothing.

If it happened here, I would have had my gun and shot them, hopefully killing them.

Now tell me how awful that would have been for me to do such a thing!

 
Posted by Art on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leinad:
Has of now, should the referees have guns on the field to defend themselves ???

By your thinking, yes.

This leads to an escalation.....

No, it leads to reduced crime. Your way leads to escalation of crime.

Every law abiding citizen in the USA should have the right to carry a concealed gun. Criminals then would all move to Canada.

 
Posted by kevin954 on :
 
Art, how do you tell a criminal from a "law abiding citizen" if the criminal has yet to commit a crime?
 
Posted by Leinad on :
 
It's a shame that you've been robbed. Gives my city a bad name.

This being said, he robbed you of what? What is worth killing for, $50.00, $100.00....?

By the way, you didn't answered my question.....about the referee.
 
Posted by Art on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kevin954:
Art, how do you tell a criminal from a "law abiding citizen" if the criminal has yet to commit a crime?

Who is a criminal that has yet to commit a crime, or where no evidence exists that they plan to commit a crime?
 
Posted by Art on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leinad:
It's a shame that you've been robbed. Gives my city a bad name.

This being said, he robbed you of what? What is worth killing for, $50.00, $100.00....?

By the way, you didn't answered my question.....about the referee.

Art: What referee? I stated in answering, "Every law abiding citizen in the USA should have the right to carry a concealed gun."

I wouldn't assess my loss before killing someone who robbed me, and wouldn't kill if I could capture with no harm to me or my family or other innocents. In the Montreal situation, anyone entering my room without announcement, and then caught by me running away, would be shot as they ran without stopping when ordered.

The robber likely has robbed many people without ever being caught. In killing a robber you make them pay for past thefts and for all future thefts accomplished by them. You also set a deterence example for other robbers.

If there were enough armed people like me crime would be no problem after a while.

Watch your crime increase after your gun control really takes hold with future confiscation of guns, as in Britian.

I support thr right to arm bears!

 
Posted by slim on :
 
Art save your breath and your time gun-control advocates will never learn until it is too late. I just wanna be there at that time. I had a friend move from here to Canada in 64 he moved back here about two years ago because of the gun-control going on up there.
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
REF's should have GUNs,

one guy just got his head pounded off the ice here in boston couldn't defend himself...

the big tough hockey player new he could win and did. I hear it was brutal someone videotaped, i'll let you know how brutal when i see it...
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
Glock 36...what a wonderful weapon..........muhhahahaha
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
check this out: this is for real( i have one), nicely made in Utah.... and yes its a belt buckle in .22mag...or LR but why not go heavy? [Big Grin]

yes it fits in the palm of your hand....




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Posted by Art on :
 
New Beretta PX4

Double action, keep it chambered with no safety needed

Hand grip inserts to mold to your particular hand

Compact and concealable
 
Posted by kevin954 on :
 
"Who is a criminal that has yet to commit a crime, or where no evidence exists that they plan to commit a crime?"

Then under your "guns for everybody" system, all of these future criminals will have guns to get it done with. And a gun wont protect you when they shoot you in the back from behind the bushes... you'll be dead, and it will be too late...
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
hey glass whatcha gonna do with that, plunk some can's....???.........LOL......just jerkin' your chain......go big or go home!..... [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by Art on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kevin954:
"Who is a criminal that has yet to commit a crime, or where no evidence exists that they plan to commit a crime?"

Then under your "guns for everybody" system, all of these future criminals will have guns to get it done with. And a gun wont protect you when they shoot you in the back from behind the bushes... you'll be dead, and it will be too late...

Yes, some law abidding citizens will get guns and later turn out to be criminals. Innocent until proven giuilty. Gun control assumes everyone is a criminal - guilty before being proved so. I believe that most people who have never committed a crime are not criminals where you believe they are.

There are so many situations where if people had concealed guns, such as on the planes on 9/11, that terrible tragedy could have been prevented.

 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ktrain420:
hey glass whatcha gonna do with that, plunk some can's....???.........LOL......just jerkin' your chain......go big or go home!..... [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

i once lived in the Great Dismal Swamp...

kept it loaded with rat shot for snakes...

they were everywhere... and cottonmouths are particularly ornery critters...

we also had snapping turtles the size of trash-can lids...hundred pounders and more...they would just get pi$$$ed if you tried using anything less than a high-powered rifle on them..
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Ktrain420:
hey glass whatcha gonna do with that, plunk some can's....???.........LOL......just jerkin' your chain......go big or go home!..... [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

i once lived in the Great Dismal Swamp...

kept it loaded with rat shot for snakes...

they were everywhere... and cottonmouths are particularly ornery critters...

we also had snapping turtles the size of trash-can lids...hundred pounders and more...they would just get pi$$$ed if you tried using anything less than a high-powered rifle on them..

Messin' with a snappin turtle ain't the way to go. LOL. They sure are nasty. Guns are good for the sportsman, guns are good for the free. Is this a free country still?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
about as free as we CAN be, considering how crowded we are getting...
 
Posted by Art on :
 
Too crowded.


We need to kill each other off more.

Opps! Meant to say we need to get each other off more.
 


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