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Why would you lock a thread if someone said it was Momo play. If you look at this stock it has been on an uptrend since when it was first posted. Weither a stock is ran by a group or not a person along with a team of people have the right to buy any play they won't. Notice how kingy of penny pumps his plays. He gets paid to do so and his always goes down. Why is it a person who post his plays before it even has volume is seen as a bad person? I am guessing paramedic has had a bad experience with group plays. But weither its a group play or GOOG someone willl always get in at HOD. You guys should be speaking out against the CEO's who diluate a stock and hammer a stock to .0001 You guys are putting your attention in the wrong please. If momo keep calling good plays people will continue to follow him weither you lost 10k or not.
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If any threads should be locked it's those with huge O/S like QBID, PRRM, CMXK (revoked) and many others. Sorry if I offened anyone but this bashing needs to stop.
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that is not how it works... A ceo dilluting his share count to infinity is not illegal... A group play is. Both are harmfull but only one is perpetrated on message boards solely.
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I have come to this site 6 weeks ago with little knowledge of stocks and have come to understand a good deal since then and I will have to say some of that was from this site.
One thing I understand about stocks is EVERYONE buys on the ask at HOD sometime -- I'm sure even the MODS have ---- please open the thread so we may continue our discussions about purchasing stocks -- weather I am an investor doing a solo play or weather I'm trading with my father, you have no right to lock a thread because someone didnt like it
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quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: that is not how it works... A ceo dilluting his share count to infinity is not illegal... A group play is. Both are harmfull but only one is perpetrated on message boards solely.
Please show me a document which states "Group plays are illegal" A site is a group. If a group leader calls a play and his people follow its a group play. Everyone has the choice to enter the stock if they want to.... And for the record promoters are paid to bring volume. Where do you think it comes from? A group.... And they get paid....
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That thread that was closed, I saw no pumping, just people posting L2s and chit chatting. I didnt seee a single "its going to the moon" the whole day. Why close somthing that can make people money. As stated above, it has had an uptrend since it was posted. What eles can one ask for. And yes, there is bag holders on every run. But I dont want a mod closing or deleting somthing that could make me money, or hundreds of other people for that fact. Now, i must say, if people came in here pumping a stock just to dump it on innocent noobs. Thats messed up, but like I said, i saw no pumping to day.
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As you might think it through. We ( 160,000 users of the board ) have no desire to read through a bunch of stuff that means nothing to the company or the stock.
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quote:Originally posted by Bob Frey: "That thread that was closed"
Yep we do that once in a while.
As you might think it through. We ( 160,000 users of the board ) have no desire to read through a bunch of stuff that means nothing to the company or the stock.
Would you agree that those who are in the stock are the ones posting on the thread to begin with. Then you have bashers like paramedic who don't own a single share come on and start to bash. That's unfair. People were clearly posting l2's and charts on APVLF and once someone said "momo" she gets locked.. Only someone who is interested in reading through 7 pages of "stuff that means nothing to the company or stock" will do so. Others will see the bashing and skip it. Post like those from paramedic and quo should be earsed because thay have nothing to do with the stock or company. IMO
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surely it is not a grudge issue... it is a legality issue... Focus for a moment and imagine who would be culpable if there was ever any lawsuits involved... Board owners would. Many of us understand that we get taken once in a while in this game... We all buy into some sort of scam... It happens. The problem is that as we are understanding of this and consider it a learning experience, many do not. Many seek revenge and would eagerly bring lawsuits against anyone involved.
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quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: surely it is not a grudge issue... it is a legality issue... Focus for a moment and imagine who would be culpable if there was ever any lawsuits involved... Board owners would. Many of us understand that we get taken once in a while in this game... We all buy into some sort of scam... It happens. The problem is that as we are understanding of this and consider it a learning experience, many do not. Many seek revenge and would eagerly bring lawsuits against anyone involved.
You have yet to provide any of us with any offical SEC documents that says " A group doesnt have the right to buy 1 stock" until you can provide us with a document like that your words mean nothing. Look at CMKX no one has yet to been sued for the scam they have caused. Why don't you just stop posting under the APVLF people?
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Please show me a document which states "Group plays are illegal"
Any one who buys a stock and then announces to folks that they should buy the same stock and sells the stock in to the folks they have told is a great stock will have a tiny problem.
SEC!
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quote:Originally posted by rukidding: Why would you lock a thread if someone said it was Momo play. If you look at this stock it has been on an uptrend since when it was first posted. Weither a stock is ran by a group or not a person along with a team of people have the right to buy any play they won't. Notice how kingy of penny pumps his plays. He gets paid to do so and his always goes down. Why is it a person who post his plays before it even has volume is seen as a bad person? I am guessing paramedic has had a bad experience with group plays. But weither its a group play or GOOG someone willl always get in at HOD. You guys should be speaking out against the CEO's who diluate a stock and hammer a stock to .0001 You guys are putting your attention in the wrong please. If momo keep calling good plays people will continue to follow him weither you lost 10k or not.
lol, not saying you *would*...
as in *have to*
as in "legally*
but
if you know the past,
you can kinda sorta predict the future...
and Momo/Alex/lexKartel etc, etc etc etc etc etc is a well-known scam artist who takes advantage of newbies.
Experienced traders will play his picks, no problem.
Shoot, lottsa folks on this board think that *I* will never touch a Momo play...that is wrong--as I have posted many times. I have made plenty of dough offa Momo picks--but I NEVER believe the hype and I do EXIT well before his gropers pull the plug....
lottsa "groups" play...
it's a game--till you get downright illegal--many threads here give good insight; read them.
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It is painfully clear to many that you are nothing more than a blithering whining loser who has nothing more to do with his miserable life than to attempt to put others down.
Please do us all a favor, and go back and crawl under the rock from whence you came.
If you knew a mere half of what you were talking about, it would be different.
Case in point: CMKX
It was a PAID promoter who is involved in the law suits, along with the CEO, and their transfer agent.
Basically, what you trying in vain to imply is that if you and I were to agree on a particular stock, and we told a couple of others about what we thought, and they told a few more, then we all bought it the same day, thats illegal.
How stupid are you?
Thats what people in the financial services industries do everyday.
Portfolio managers deal with their clients everyday doing the same thing.
For someone with your signature line, you are not very bright.
I'm not going to comment further, because I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man!
Have a nice day.....
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BG It is painfully obvious that you have eluded the orderlies yet again. Crept from your room/cell in the hopes of playing on the nurses computer. BG you have to want help to get help... Take the pills and be a good boy and stay in your room/cell all night.
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Let me try to give you the answer as to why momo and his group are banned from AllStocks by actually giving you the SEC's thoughts on this and some of mine. GLTA
PYRAMID SCHEMES
In the classic "pyramid" scheme, participants attempt to make money solely by recruiting new participants into the program. The hallmark of these schemes is the promise of sky-high returns in a short period of time for doing nothing other than handing over your money and getting others to do the same.
The fraudsters behind a pyramid scheme may go to great lengths to make the program look like a legitimate multi-level marketing program. But despite their claims to have legitimate products or services to sell, these fraudsters simply use money coming in from new recruits to pay off early stage investors. But eventually the pyramid will collapse. At some point the schemes get too big, the promoter cannot raise enough money from new investors to pay earlier investors, and many people lose their money. The chart below shows how pyramid schemes can become impossible to sustain:
For more information about pyramid schemes and fraudulent multi-level marketing programs, please visit the Federal Trade Commission’s website and read their brochures entitled Lotions and Potions: The Bottom Line About Multilevel Marketing Plans, Multi-Level Marketing Plans, and Profits in Pyramid Schemes? Don’t Bank on It!.
The Market is not a closed universe limited only to the Old timers posting and the Newbie’s watching and playing the picks here on All Stocks or RB.
There are hundreds and thousands of folks that play the penny stock game world wide that use the same programs that we use with almost literally the same trade alerts for volume, % gain and on and on. There are a limitless group of combinations. The Con that momo plays is a multi level front load scheme that specifically searches for Low float under the radar type stocks that have the potential for news or world events that may look favorable toward that particular sector stock. He keeps these on his watch list and rotates occasionally.
Momo has 2 different groups that play these. The first group secretly front loads as much as 2 weeks in advance to just a few days to give the stock he has picked the appearance of positive volume. The second group is given the pick just after the first by 2 or 3 days and they are instructed to buy as well as this is going to be “The Next Momo Runner”. This gives the stock pick additional volume and now has a positive % and volume increase for now what would appear for many days to 2 weeks. The shell plants (momo followers) inundate the various stock blog boards with the same old con garbage. Hmmmmmmm look at SCAM stock it has had a 60 % or whatever gain in the last week or 2. Or I called the PR guy and there is supposed to be a HUGE PR next week. Or I here there is an offer on the table to buy SCAM company for 1000% of where it is trading at today. I think you get the drift as to the myriad of possible Fraudulent Pumps that could be used. By this time SCAM stock is popping up on the radar of many people world wide and appears to be a sound possible play. With the additional buying of New Suckers to the great play momo is pushing on the boards this produces additional volume and % increase. Now it is truly a Great Buy as it is starting to Jump like a Rocket. TBLU is a classic example of a momo play. A No nothing shell company that is easily manipulated upward with relatively a minimal investment by momo’s group creating as much as a 100% gain in just 30 minutes when the scam is officially the play of the day. Of course momo and the other insider scam artists have been accumulating for days to weeks prior giving these creeps the chance to make thousands off the backs of the unsuspecting. They sell Like heck the day they Launch the SCAM stock.
Now if this was a closed universe and there was only the groups on AS or the RB boards dealing with this scam then I would have to say “to each their own”. I think the old timers warn people enough. So if the newbie’s buy into this get rich quick crap they deserve to get burned. But it is NOT a closed universe and momo and his gang of Crooks aren’t just nailing investors on these boards but momo is Screwing the unwitting folks that aren’t aware of his con. It is one thing to invest into a solid potential stock and tell others about it, But to front load lie about their potential and purposely Manipulate stocks is CRIMINAL. This is no different than Holding up a 7/11 at GUNPOINT by masked Robbers!
That is why we bash momo and his Gang of Crooks and Scam Artist Wanna bees. Enough Said!
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