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VNGNTN1
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Can anyone explain any relationship between the subject & order types ie: Limit, Stop, Stop Limt ?
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OM Sorry about computers, was hoping you had some explaination on this.
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quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
Can anyone explain any relationship between the subject & order types ie: Limit, Stop, Stop Limt ?

Van.....here is my explanation. LMK if this is what you are looking for:

Limit....an order to buy or sell at a specific price. Say .01. Stock xyz is at .013 and starts down. You put in a limit sell at .01. If you completely fill, great, but if it passes you by very fast...you don't get a fill. Your order still sits there with a limit ask of .01 (the minimum you would accept).

Stop....doesn't usually apply in OTCBB world. But in AMEX, NASDAQ, and NYSE. Stock xyz is at .80. You don't want risk anything more than a drop to .75. So, you put in a stop at .75. If it hits .75 your order immediately activates as a market order. You will get filled (maybe some at .74 etc.).

Stop Limit....same scenario as with a Stop, only your order is activated as a limit order. You may fill at .75, but if it drops very fast, you may not get a total fill.

The relationship to Support/Resistance from what I have read is simply strategy. If you buy something today, you should set your stop just below yesterday's low (the most recent support level) depending on how far down that is from where you bought. If its a large drop, then set a stop at a number you are not willing to go under for loss.

Or, if you don't think something will break resistance, you set a stop just below the high you expect...then you get decent profit before it retraces (the risk being that it might break resistance and run).

Stops are excellent protection devices for AMEX, NASDAQ, and NYSE plays. Always protect your capital when you can. Unfortunately, Ameritrade doesn't allow stops in OTCBB because of the huge volatility.

Limits protect you from the MM's taking advantage of an open ended market order. ALWAYS use limits when buying/selling OTCBB's. With Ameritrade, I don't have a choice..they make you use limits for OTCBB's.


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Yes I understand this, but you missed my concept, Probably did not expressit correctly.
Once more. There is a "volume" of orders both buy & sell both above & below current price. I am trying to access these volumes. A correlation to this would be the option markets. You can look into the future by month & strike price and see the open interest and contracts. This information really really helps deciding where to place and option order and to some extent(even though a different pool of money) where a regular order might be headed.

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Van,
you simply looking for level III info..
As far as I know we(regular investors) are not allowed to access to level III..
It would definitely be helpful to see the stop buy or sell orders and the amounts..
I see you are involved to options, and trying to figure out which call( or at what strike price)you want to buy by taking account the resistance points..
First of all,
I am trying to understand what you have in your mind..I'll draw a picture, pls let me know if it's correct or not..

In this scenario, you are willing to buy let's say QQQ Jan. 04 calls.
But you cannot decide at which strike price you gonna buy..Jan04 call @ 34 strike costs 1.85, @38 costs .20..if there are lots of resistance between 34 and 38 you wanna buy @1.85, if there are not significant resistance points, you are willing to take more risk and buy @ 38..And you wanna see these resistance levels by reaching some e.g stop sell or stop buy orders between 34&38...Pls, let me know whether I am with you or not...


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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
P90
Yes I understand this, but you missed my concept, Probably did not expressit correctly.
Once more. There is a "volume" of orders both buy & sell both above & below current price. I am trying to access these volumes. A correlation to this would be the option markets. You can look into the future by month & strike price and see the open interest and contracts. This information really really helps deciding where to place and option order and to some extent(even though a different pool of money) where a regular order might be headed.

[This message has been edited by raven76 (edited December 13, 2003).]


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P90 & RAVEN
NO, Actually I would like to see this data to decide an entry price on purchase. The strike and premium on options are a mathmatical formula for me( how much do I want to make, and the risk to be called out), Generally if I sell a call I figure it's time to take a profit anyway.
Frequently I will checkout option intrest in future month to set a buy limit on a new stock purchase.
Was just hoping to refine the process with open order data.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited December 15, 2003).]


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