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EXEG-Billionaire Phillip Frost, M.D. to take over majority control EXEG currently is a shell stock that has approximately $9 million on hand The deal has been in the works since 8/2006 and already has SEC approval, and today is being voted on by the shareholders Phillip Frost and company will be buying 51%, controlling interest, for approximately $9 million, giving EXEG a total of $18 million on hand There are currently 17 million shares, and Frost and company will acquire 19 million, for a total of approximately 36 million shares outstanding. Current shareholders keep all of their shares, no R/s or 5% ownership http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001144204%252D06...
Phillip Frost, M.D.
Phillip Frost, age 70, is the vice chairman of the board of directors of Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Limited. He served as chairman of the board of directors and chief executive officer of IVAX Corporation from 1987 to 2006, when it was acquired by Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Limited. He served as president of IVAX Corporation from July 1991 until January 1995. He was the chairman of the Department of Dermatology at Mt. Sinai Medical Center of Greater Miami, Miami Beach, Florida from 1972 to 1990. Dr. Frost was chairman of the board of directors of Key Pharmaceuticals, Inc. from 1972 to 1986. He also served as chairman of the board of directors of IVAX Diagnostics, Inc. (diagnostic reagent kits), a subsidiary of IVAX Corporation from 2001 to 2006. He is a director of Northrop Grumman Corporation (aerospace), Continucare Corporation (healthcare), Castle Brands, Inc. (spirits), Cellular Technical Services, Inc. (telecommunications) and chairman of the board of directors of Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc. (securities brokerage). He is on the Board of Regents of the Smithsonian Institution, a member of the Board of Trustees of the University of Miami and co-vice chairman of the Board of Governors of the American Stock Exchange.
This is what happens when he takes control: ORTX-Bought this shell 12/2005, went up 2500% in 1 week and held 2000% DRMN-Bought 15% of OS 11/2006, went up 250% and held
This is all in my opinion and for entertainment purposes only
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On the surface it seems like a no brainer, but a few things to consider:
1) The first mention I found of Frost and EXEG was last August. So this is not "new", per se.
2) It's up over 300% from that point already.
3) A lot of good traders from Ihub are on this, and are mostly up 25%+ already. they are good traders, not greedy, so they are already in a good position, and are in well before you if you get in now.
So at this point I'd call this a momentum play, unless you're willing to hold it speculatively for a looooong time, while day and swing traders exit over the next few hours/days. In my opinion it will most likely drop below this point before it gets much higher (assuming it goes much higher in the future.)
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Good try with the weak bash. If you don't like it, find another stock, but this is one of maybe 100(I'm being generous)real plays in the penny market. And the best thing about this one, it will most likely go on to a higher exchange, their wont be any toxic dillution, and big money will be moving into it as soon as Frost takes control. Check out ORTX and DRMN to see what happens when Frost gets involved. And just so you know, up 25% for a Ihub trader is nothing, most of those guys get 100-1000% on their trades.
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Wasn't a weak bash, was an honest, well reasoned alternate point of view.
And Ihub has just as many bagholders as they do experienced traders and flippers. CMKX- need I say more?
quote:Originally posted by cautionupahead: Good try with the weak bash. If you don't like it, find another stock, but this is one of maybe 100(I'm being generous)real plays in the penny market. And the best thing about this one, it will most likely go on to a higher exchange, their wont be any toxic dillution, and big money will be moving into it as soon as Frost takes control. Check out ORTX and DRMN to see what happens when Frost gets involved. And just so you know, up 25% for a Ihub trader is nothing, most of those guys get 100-1000% on their trades.
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Hardly, his info was false and obviously he was bashing, just not good at it. He calls this not new news, yet it just became a done deal today, was started 6 months ago, but it was a long process. If I tell you I'm going to buy a house and then 6 months later call you and say I just bought my house today, you don't say, yeah I know, you told me 6 months ago, LOL. Also, what is the point in posting this?:3) A lot of good traders from Ihub are on this, and are mostly up 25%+ already. they are good traders, not greedy, so they are already in a good position, and are in well before you if you get in now." That's a bash if I ever have seen one. Basically the whole point to his post is that you missed the boat. First of all, why post if you don't like a stock, there really are only 2 reasons to waste your time, 1-You lost money and are pissed at management, and 2-you haven't gotten in and hope to bash it down so you can get in lower, LOL, and that's probably what this guy hopes, because he can't be pissed at management yet, they were just appointed today. I don't think he is a paid basher because it's too early for them to be on the scene, but maybe. Also up 25% from ihubers, I've gotten in stocks that ihubers have been up 500% and still made 500%, so 25% doesn't scare me. This stock is barely just getting on peoples radars, and wont really get alot of notice until next week and after. The EXEG ihub board only has 99 messages as of right now, and 21 board marks, still virtually unnoticed by the ihub community. And it's not on any of the most active or watched lists there either. Then this guy, who supposidly doesn't like this stock, comes back to this board, for what reason I know not, and brings up that there are alot of ihuber bagholders and CMKX, he was the one that brought up ihub in the first place, his posts make no sense. Go back to CMKX, now that's one to bash, but this one has a Billionaire running the show, he makes more money in interest in 1 week then you'll make in your lifetime, I put my money on him and not you.LOL. Next
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cautionupahead: [QB] Hardly, his info was false and obviously he was bashing, just not good at it. He calls this not new news, yet it just became a done deal today, was started 6 months ago, but it was a long process. If I tell you I'm going to buy a house and then 6 months later call you and say I just bought my house today, you don't say, yeah I know, you told me 6 months ago, LOL.
With all due respect, Caution- have you never heard the phrase 'Buy on the rumor, sell on News'? I've been around here for a little while, and feel that Pcola is not a basher- he is just giving an honest opinion based on insights that the average reader may have overlooked or just not known. That's not bashing- that's compassion. I hope this runs for you and you make a nice profit- it just won't be at my expense.
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Wow, you guys must be allergic to making money. Still my question, who posts on a board of a stock they dont like and why??? If I did that it would take up more than my entire lifetime, that's why I only post on the boards of stocks I like, and also probably why while you guys are bashing stocks you don't like, I'm busy making money. I guess it just depends on what your goals are.IMO
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According to articles, Frost plans on taking a private company public with EXEG. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15933557.htm On Friday he just put people from his Frost Group LLC in charge of EXEG, so maybe he plans on taking Frost Group LLC public, and using EXEG as his holding company for acquisitions, which would be amazing. Otherwise I'm sure whatever he plans on taking public will be a very lucrative prospect. Someone posted on ihub it could be a drug that's about to be able to go generic, so that would be nice. Great things ahead in the next couple of weeks, this baby is just starting. Based on his past performance, $10-20 by the end of the year.IMO
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I'm not sure why I'm bothering to respond, but you're right caution, you nailed me. Crap, I'm so fired now. My boss, the one who pays me to bash, is gonna be pissed. How am I going to explain that I got unmasked so quickly...
And to those of you who saw my true intentions, I appreciate the backup.
I wasn't trying to bash the stock, but since you felt the need to attack me, I'll enjoy bashing you now.
1) Your point about "new news" is utterly ridiculous. In the stock market, when intentions are stated, THAT is when the money starts to flow into a stock. By the time it becomes official, most good traders are already in. I'm sure you're aware of that, but are for some reason ignoring that fact.
2) I'm not telling people that they missed the boat, I am alerting them to the fact that despite your seeming assertion that this is breaking news, enough people are in befor ethem that it's already up 300% since the "rumor" started. Not saying that they missed the boat, rather saying two things. 1) There's a CHANCE that they did miss the boat, and 2) to temper their expectations if they decide to get in.
3) I was unaware that there were only two reasons to point out opposing points of view on a stock message board. Can you direct me to where in the rule book it states that? Geez, and here I was doing DD and posting it to help others make a more informed decision. I'll make a note that I can only post opposing DD if my intentions are poor. Thanks for the heads up.
4) How about giving me the symbols of a few stocks that were up 500% when you got in and made another 500%? I'd be interested to see that list.
5) "The EXEG ihub board only has 99 messages as of right now, and 21 board marks, still virtually unnoticed by the ihub community". Try doing a search for "EXEG" in public messages on IHub. It's been talked about on BBs Penny Haven (2742 board marks), the golden lists (1027 board marks), Momentum Playerz (1502 board marks), Cash Cow (1034 board marks),EZ Traders (1133 board marks), Zeev's Turnip Patch (1968 board marks), Swing trader member forum (1073 board marks), Break Out trading (1412 board marks). And that's just he ones with over 1000 board marks that I notced on the first page of recent EXEG posts. There were plenty more with 600+ board marks talking about it. So I have a hard time seeing how it's "relatively un-noticed".
6) When did calling something a momentum play become a bash? See, here I thought people can make good money on momentum plays, and yet by warning people of the potential dangers of holding a penny stock (which I'm pretty sure is a concept that I didn't come up with on my own), I am labeled a basher? Interesting concept.
Now, I still wish you, and anyone else who gets in good luck, but if I'm a "paid basher" you're obviously a "paid pumper" a hundred times over, because while I posted my opinion here, and only here, you've been SPAMing it like crazy over at IHub.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to do a Scrooge McDuck like dive into my money, because of how much I've saved by not following the "advice" of pumpers like yourself.
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Nice Pcola - I admire your insights and your honesty on this board. Cheers M8.
IMO it's not only a matter of whether this will make everyone money. Strategy and knowing what the facts are - and who's on the field - that makes the difference.
GLTA
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Thanks man, good to see us "bashers" stick together
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Nice Pcola - I admire your insights and your honesty on this board. Cheers M8.
IMO it's not only a matter of whether this will make everyone money. Strategy and knowing what the facts are - and who's on the field - that makes the difference.
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Pcola-Good try again with the bash. Dude, just buy in on Monday, you're not going to get cheaper shares. I see you brought some of your buddies over to jam up the board so no one can read it and get good info. In reply to your BS:
1-On the NYSE yes, buy on rumor sell on news doesn't apply to penny stocks, otherwise FCCN would already be $1, but you already know that. 2-Your post,"unless you're willing to hold it speculatively for a looooong time, while day and swing traders exit over the next few hours/days. In my opinion it will most likely drop below this point before it gets much higher (assuming it goes much higher in the future.)", if that's not a bash then I dont know what is, LOL, good try though. 3-You were not doing DD, DD is facts, not a negative view of the facts, it's just the facts. Here you go again, "unless you're willing to hold it speculatively for a looooong time, while day and swing traders exit over the next few hours/days. In my opinion it will most likely drop below this point before it gets much higher (assuming it goes much higher in the future."LOL 4-FCCN, ATLJ, LOL, you're not very good at this. 5-The momentum boards you write of are barely even talking about EXEG. When EXEG has as many board marks as FCCN-279, CKYS-569, and/or SLJB-982, then tell me Ihubers are already all over it, until then, you are lying, and your posts are written in an effort to confuse and distract, thus "Bash" the stock. Also, you say 2 things that don't make sense, if it's already on everyones radar as you would have everyone believe, why would I need to "Spam" the stock, LOL. I am "Spamming" it because people don't know about it, LOL, if they did there would be nothing for me to "spam", it would be old news, as you say, LOL. But don't worry, people will know about it soon enough, as soon as Frost reveals his plans, and it's talked about it in all the financial magazines. I see you like stocks like USXP, CHNW, and CSHD, yeah those are real winners run by real ethical people that dump billions of shares, you're not even on my playing field. You obviously wouldn't know a great stock if it hit you on the head 6-Your post, once again," unless you're willing to hold it speculatively for a looooong time, while day and swing traders exit over the next few hours/days. In my opinion it will most likely drop below this point before it gets much higher (assuming it goes much higher in the future." Doesn't sound like your selling it as a momo play. Yes, you have one sentence saying it's a momo play, but most of the rest is a bash.
I read your profile, and see you want to save the world from the "a***hole pumpers", so you probably have lost alot of money from buying pump jobs of crappy companies. First, you should do your own DD, not rely on somebody on a message board to do it for you. And second, you should take responsibility for your losses, because no one can make you pull the trigger. And third, try to catch up to the present, because while you continue to live in the past, the present is passing you by. This game is not for everyone, and obviously you've already been beaten, and now want no one else to win, thus your antagonism to winning stocks with a bright future. I'd understand if a guy like you were on CKYS, FCCN or SLJB, but a company with a Billionaire who has a high reputation in the community to uphold, well that just doesn't make sense. Just because you lost, doesn't mean you have to kill the party for the rest of us. And if you trully are a nice guy, just misunderstood, then instead of wasting your time here, why not volunteer feeding food to the hungry and/or reading stories to sick children, you'd have much more of an impact and it would fill your day with joy.IMO
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Zeker-I didn't go on his board and start bashing the stock he was excited about, but he did that to me, and I'm the bad guy??? It's a great stock with great management with lots and lots of potential, which is rare to find in the penny world. If he doesn't like the stock, no need to bash it or post false negative information, just move on and find a stock he does like. I never understood people like that, life is to short.IMO
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You're funny caution. I'm a bad basher yet you point out that I'm "interested in CHNW, USXP and CSHD. However, in all three instances I was posting on the threads with the EXACT SAME type of info that I was posting here, i.e., a "bash" because I was pointing out potential downsides to all three stocks. A few weeks ago I bought a few shares of CSHD because I was reading the thread often anyway, and that made it more interesting. Kinda like betting on the Super Bowl, when you otherwise don't give a rat's ass. So if my bashing is bad, your is flat out attrocious.
By the way, a few more points to ruin your credibility, not that you had any in the first place.
1) Can you explain to me how you bought ATLJ when it was up 500% and then made 500% from there? Because here's what I see. The lowest price it was leading up to the run was .0017. So if you got in at 500% from there, you bought at .0085 or higher. In order to make 500% from there, it would have had to have hit .0425. Best I can see, it peaked at .027. So I feel comfortable saying that you're flat out lying.
2) As for FCCN, it looks like you got in on December 13. If you got in at the absolute high of the day, that's .0065. There was no point that it was as low as .0015, so it could not have been up 500% before you got in. Again, you're lying.
3) For someone who's "not very good at this", I just debunked you you irrefutably with about 2 minutes of looking at charts. I'd hate to see what someone who is "good at this" could do to your patetic arguments.
4) I, and the rest of the Allstocks family, should have stopped reading your post at "25% for a Ihub trader is nothing, most of those guys get 100-1000% on their trades. " That's got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. If "most" of them make that kind of scratch, you shouldn't even bother posting over here, as you should already be a retired zillionaire by just blindly following those geniuses.
I'd be interested in hearing your response to the fact that I just PROVED, beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're a liar. How will you defend yourself? This should be interesting.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cautionupahead: [QB] Pcola-Good try again with the bash. Dude, just buy in on Monday, you're not going to get cheaper shares. I see you brought some of your buddies over to jam up the board so no one can read it and get good info. [QB]
Easy Podnah! I didnt come to this board because anyone told me to. I came here because of the information YOU first posted. I only posted after Pcola brought out some facts such as the news wasnt as fresh as you first made it out to be AND the stock was up 300% and you basically called that a lie. That information is all true. Its low was 39 cents on August 11, 2006 and it closed at 1.93 Friday. That is what I call facts. The 8k was filed originally on August 15, 2006. Once again the news had been out since August so its been known about since then. That is what I call facts. As far as what is being said at Ihub, by posters on this stock or any stock that is usually just opinion UNLESS it is backed by filings or historical data such as I have posted above. That is also fact. SO I appreciate you bringing this stock to light here at Allstocks. I appreciate Pcola bringing some additional info to the thread for all of us to research. I hope everyone makes money. TMAN...
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PCola-Novice basher, I'm guessing you get paid by the posts, because they are weak, once again, why are you still here??? My very first post on this thread was DD, your very first post was slanted, and twisted DD with a bash, why I ask, nothing better to do??? So it took me all of a minute to go to pinksheets dot com and look at ATLJ, low of 0.001, I got in after some fireworks at 0.005, not hard to do the math. As far as FCCN, low of 0.0012, what, you don't even know about pink sheets dot com, LOL. Anyways, I had many buy points, unfortunately, and one of them was 1c, and from there it hit a high of 0.065. Like I said, you're not even in the same game as me, quit trying. Once again, your post, and you still can't admit you came over here to bash, LOL:"So at this point I'd call this a momentum play, unless you're willing to hold it speculatively for a looooong time, while day and swing traders exit over the next few hours/days. In my opinion it will most likely drop below this point before it gets much higher (assuming it goes much higher in the future.)"
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Tman-This guys info is so slanted it's unreal. The"it's up 300%" means absolutely nothing. It's up 300% from 6 months ago, so you don't buy stocks that are up 300% from 6 months ago, if thats the measuring stick people use here??? I'm not here to teach people how to make money in the market, either you like this stock, and have something to add, more DD, or move on. Looks like a lot of raging bullers are here now, this used to be a good message board.IMO
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Okay caution, find the day that ATLJ was .001 leading up to the run, because it never happened. And even so, I'd be fairly impressed if you bought at exactly at .005 and sold at .025 when it peaked at .027. But more likely, you're full of it.
And by the way, as an obvious pumper, what would YOU say are the potential down sides to this play? I'd be interested in hearing if you try to say there is no possible downside, or if it's okay for you to list downsides, since you're not a basher?
And please keep replying, because like you said, I get paid by the post.
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PCOLA,admittedly, spends his day bashing stocks he doesn't like
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Billionaire, Phillip Frost, age 70, is the vice chairman of the board of directors of Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Limited. He served as chairman of the board of directors and chief executive officer of IVAX Corporation from 1987 to 2006, when it was acquired by Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Limited. He served as president of IVAX Corporation from July 1991 until January 1995. He was the chairman of the Department of Dermatology at Mt. Sinai Medical Center of Greater Miami, Miami Beach, Florida from 1972 to 1990. Dr. Frost was chairman of the board of directors of Key Pharmaceuticals, Inc. from 1972 to 1986. He also served as chairman of the board of directors of IVAX Diagnostics, Inc. (diagnostic reagent kits), a subsidiary of IVAX Corporation from 2001 to 2006. He is a director of Northrop Grumman Corporation (aerospace), Continucare Corporation (healthcare), Castle Brands, Inc. (spirits), Cellular Technical Services, Inc. (telecommunications) and chairman of the board of directors of Ladenburg Thalmann Financial Services Inc. (securities brokerage). He is on the Board of Regents of the Smithsonian Institution, a member of the Board of Trustees of the University of Miami and co-vice chairman of the Board of Governors of the American Stock Exchange.
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PCola77...this caution guy cracks me up thinking you are actually a paid basher!!! This stock made its run..stop trying to bring the newbies in here. Adios.
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Thanks st22. Anyway, I'm done here. I've let others know the potential downsides, which was my entire intention. I apologize to everyone but caution that it blew up the way that it did. And I'm not even saying its run is done, just saying I expected it to pull back some before it runs (if it does). And seeing as it's down almost 10% from when I posted my original "bash", it looks like I was right. I'm still not sure how that got extrapolated into me being a paid basher, but whatever.
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