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AGCI (1.90) gives out a 1 for 5 stock dividend this week of MDAS (7.70) The ex-dividend date and record date is March 23 with an issue date of March 25

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Looks like its starting to rise.
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MDAS is up to 8.00 now.

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Is there anyone out there that owns AGCI and plans to sell it? I planned on selling it one day after the ex dividend date, which is also the record date, but I read the following:

If you sell your stock before the ex-dividend date, you also are selling away your right to the stock dividend. Your sale includes an obligation to deliver any shares acquired as a result of the dividend to the buyer of your shares, since the seller will receive an I.O.U. or "due bill" from his or her broker for the additional shares. Thus, it is important to remember that the day you can sell your shares without being obligated to deliver the additional shares is not the first business day after the record date, but usually is the first business day after the stock dividend is paid.

I read this on the U S Securities and Exchange Commission Website. They say you have to wait until one business day after the issue date. E-Trade says one day after the ex-dividend date. Who is right?

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I'd recommend just asking your broker about the individual stock that you are interested in (AGCI in this case).

Ex-dividend date is March 23, so it is too late to buy AGCI and get the dividend.

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Im confused now, when do you figure is the soonest you can sell these stocks and not lose the dividend?

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I'm pretty sure that you can buy the before the ex-dividend date to get the dividend (and hold over night), and can sell as early as the ex-dividend date and still get the dividend. Since it takes 3 days to get on the record as a stock holder, the ex-dividend date is set two days prior to the pay-out date.

Maybe this will make you feel more at ease:

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From Ameritrade:
There are
typically three dates referenced with the payment of a dividend; the
ex-dividend date, the record date, and the payable date.

As a rule, the ex-dividend date is the most significant date to keep in
mind. The ex-dividend day is the first day a stock trades without a
declared dividend. Since the stock is no longer trading with the
dividend attached, the shareholder that held the shares at the market open on
the ex-dividend date would receive the dividend. Also, the price of
the stock is adjusted prior to market open (including the pre-market
session) on the ex-dividend date to reflect the price without the value of
the dividend. There is no minimum holding period that shares must be
held prior to the ex-dividend date to entitle the holder to the dividend
payment.

Shares that are purchased on (again, including the pre-market session)
or after the ex-dividend date are purchased at this lower price and
therefore, are not entitled to the dividend payment. Shareholders who
sell their shares prior to the ex-dividend date (including the extended
market session) sell the shares with the dividend still attached; in
other words, they sell the security and the expected dividend.

Therefore, if one buys shares prior to the ex-dividend date and holds
the shares until after market open on the ex-dividend date, they are
entitled to receive the dividend.

The Record Date, a date used for corporate bookkeeping and commonly
used in press releases and other news stories, is a term most often used
by Corporations and Transfer Agents. Record date does not determine who
is entitled to the dividend; it merely indicates to whom the transfer
agent will deliver the shares. If a person holds shares on the record
date but sells the shares prior to the ex-dividend date, they will
deliver the dividend with the shares. Dividends are attached to shares, not
people, so if shares are sold prior to the ex-dividend date, the
dividend goes with the shares.

The Payable Date refers to the day brokers and shareholders anticipate
the company or paying agent will pay out the dividend. This typically
occurs after market close on the payable date. Payable date is
generally after the ex-dividend date on cash dividends and prior to the
ex-dividend date of stock splits and spin-offs.

Please keep in mind there are different types of dividends, the most
common being the cash dividend. However stock splits, stock
distributions, spin-offs, and restricted distributions are all considered dividends
and therefore, similar principles apply.

The company is responsible for establishing the record date and the
payable date for any dividend. They will typically communicate this
information via a press release through a major news service, or on their
website. Once established, the exchange on which the stock trade, or the
NASD, has the option to establish the ex-dividend date. The
ex-dividend date is typically not referenced in the press release, as it is
established after the company's announcement.

Although most securities follow the rule of ex-dividend date, this will
vary with different exchanges; as a result, we suggest you request
information on a specific security to ensure accurate information.



[ March 23, 2005, 17:16: Message edited by: Thorn ]

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Jeez O ,thankya

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Short sellers? Dividend sellers?

No one but SCHB and NITE are going down on the ask!

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What are you saying about short sellers and dividend sellers?

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it is common for a stock to drop ex-dividend...

you just got a big payout if MDAS holds at 8$ [Big Grin]

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Well, it just looks kind of strange when all other MMs are holding their ask price.

Evenif MDAS drops back to $7.70, it is nice. But selling it on Monday might be a different deal...

As for AGCI, $1.75 is support so I'm not (too) worried about holding. Silly me; I thought it might actually go back up to $2.10 today.

[ March 24, 2005, 13:34: Message edited by: Thorn ]

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Did anybody recieve their dividend yet? I have not, just curious.

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No divedend yet. E-trade told me it would probably be posted after closing Monday Night but nothing as of 11:00 pm eastern. They told me they would send me an alert this evening but nothing yet. Guess they could care less.

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I have still have not gotten access to my mdas.pk dividend shares. Ameritrade told me they are restricted. This seems like a long hold up. Does anyone know if this is normal?
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I was told that they went by record date instead of ex-dividend date, meaning you'd have to had bought March 18 or earlier to get the dividend (and sold no sooner than March 23).

That left me out.

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I did that, I have the shares, but their not listed as anything in my account(N/A). Kinda strange I think. So I cant do anything with them. Still pretty new, and this is confusing me more.
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I talked to Rick McCaffrey yesterday, the investor relations rep for Angelciti, and he told me some upsetting news. The dividend of Midas is restricted and it will take about a year for it to be tradable. I spoke with him in February, before I bought in and asked him if the dividend was free trading or restricted, and he told me to the best of his knowledge that it would be a free trading dividend. He does not work for Angelciti but his firm represents them financially. He was as pissed off as I was that he and the stockholders were misled into thinking that. He told me that Angelciti was going to put out a press release today but I have seen nothing yet. Someone should should class action these devious corporate F***'S. Usually when a stock dividend is announced, they tell you that it will be restricted or free trading. In their annoucement they said neither. So in the future I will never buy in unless it says free trading !!!!

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restricting the shares is definitely underhanded....
that was never PRed.....

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AGCI up .14

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AGCI up .29

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Press Release Source: AngelCiti Entertainment, Inc.

AngelCiti Reports a 28.5 Percent Jump in Third Quarter Results
Tuesday October 18, 7:00 am ET

PEMBROKE PINES, Fla., Oct. 18, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- AngelCiti Entertainment, Inc. (OTC BB:AGCI.OB - News), an online casino software company, announced today that it had a gross net win of $270,841 and an overall handle of $6,994,216 for the third quarter of 2005 as compared to a gross win of $210,654 and an overall handle of $5,189,873 for the 2nd quarter of 2005.

We're pleased to again be showing a positive trend from our core operations and fully expect to continue to carry that trend into the fourth quarter,'' remarked George Gutierrez. ``The tide of the meteoric rise of online poker seems to have subsided, resulting in players returning to their old forms of online entertainment, such as online casinos. That, combined with re-focused marketing efforts and new games provided by our software seems to be garnering additional customers and play to our platform.''

The Industry

Revenues from online gambling are expected to soar from $12 billion this year to $24.5 billion in 2010, according to Christiansen Capital Advisors, a Maine-based consulting firm. A recent article in the Toronto Globe and Mail estimates that in the past five years, online gambling has grown threefold, into a $12 billion-a-year business, and InformaMedia Group, which tracks electronic gambling, predicts that online gaming revenue will even reach $14.5 billion by next year.

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