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Fox News Posts Anti-Semitic Screed Blaming Jews For Holocaust

by Samantha Page Oct 10, 2015 2:23pm


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Psychiatrist Keith Ablow has written a new piece defending his candidate's shocking views on the Holocaust.


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In a new piece on Fox News, op-ed contributor and Ben Carson supporter Keith Ablow defends Carson’s recent comments blaming the disarmament of Jews in Nazi Germany for the Holocaust. Ablow took the argument a step further, saying that if the Jewish community had more forcefully opposed disarming, they could have prevented the Holocaust.

In the piece, “Why Ben Carson is right about Jews, the Holocaust and guns,” Ablow argues that turning over their guns was tantamount to a mental defeat.

“The mindset that Jews surrendered with their guns is far more important than the hardware they turned over: They surrendered the demonstrated intention, at all costs, to resist being deprived of liberty,” Ablow writes. He also discloses that he has hosted a fundraiser for the candidate.

Carson — who is currently leading in some polls — started down this path after the UCC shooting in Oregon, where 13 people were killed. Carson argued that the victims should have attacked the shooter. (In fact, one heroically did.) He then went on to say that gun control is oppressive and that the Holocaust would have been less likely if the German Jews had been armed. The presidential candidate has a long history of comparing the United States to Nazi Germany.

In fact, Carson’s original statements were quickly censured by the Anti-Defamation League.

“The notion that Hitler’s gun-control policy contributed to the Holocaust is historically inaccurate,” Jonathan A. Greenblatt, ADL National Director, said in a statement. “The small number of personal firearms available to Germany’s Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state. When they had weapons, Jews could symbolically resist, as they did in the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and elsewhere, but they could not stop the Nazi genocide machine.”

But Ablow, who hosted a fundraiser for Carson at his Massachusetts home last month, rose to defend the candidate and rebut the ADL, suggesting that Jews should not have gone along with the Holocaust.


Granted, I was not there. Granted, hindsight is 20/20. But it turns out it was a bad idea for any Jew to have turned over a gun. It was a bad idea for any Jew to have boarded a train. It was a bad idea for any Jew to have passed through a gate into a camp. It was a bad idea for any Jew to do any work at any such camp. It was a bad idea for any Jew to not attempt to crush the skull or scratch out the eyes of any Nazi who turned his back for one moment.

Political reporters were speculating Saturday that the piece would be taken down.

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Do you get tired of being the dumbest guy on this site?

You must know that everyone who still reads the forum here (all 12 of us) make fun of how dumb you are.

Just saying....

Honestly, you're a paid shill posting on a site worth (at last assessment) $1,578.00. That kind of makes you the least capable of all shills.

Not only are you locked in the cage of the short bus and wearing the hockey helmet, but you think it's cool.

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go intercourse yourself ish kabibble
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quote:
Originally posted by Relentless.:
Do you get tired of being the dumbest guy on this site?

You must know that everyone who still reads the forum here (all 12 of us) make fun of how dumb you are.

Just saying....

Honestly, you're a paid shill posting on a site worth (at last assessment) $1,578.00. That kind of makes you the least capable of all shills.

Not only are you locked in the cage of the short bus and wearing the hockey helmet, but you think it's cool.

His response confirms your post.
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lol.. Doesn't it always?
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Former neurosurgeon Ben Carson has become an unlikely frontrunner in the GOP presidential primary, leading recent polls in Iowa and surpassing all of the other Republican candidates’ recent fundraising totals.

Though he has never held political office, his short time in the spotlight has given him plenty of opportunity to make controversial and often factually incorrect statements. In May, ThinkProgress highlighted seven ridiculous things that Ben Carson believes. But in the past six months, Carson has come up with even more incendiary remarks and comparisons, which seem to only help his campaign.

Here are 13 arguments that Carson has made during his political career:

Women who get abortions are like slaveholders

On NBC’s Meet the Press in October, Carson compared women who terminate their unwanted pregnancies to slaveowners who “thought that they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave.”

He went on to call for an outlaw of abortion, even in cases of rape and incest. “I would not be in favor of killing a baby because the baby came about in that way,” he said.

Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery

Carson’s abortion comments were just the latest in a series of arguments he has made comparing things to slavery. Back in 2013, when Carson was still gaining recognition in the Republican Party, he said in a speech that “Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.”

“And it is in a way, it is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care,” he added. “It was about control.”

‘Hitler’ could happen in the U.S. today

Similarly, Carson has made a series of comments invoking Nazi Germany since launching his campaign. In September, he said at a campaign event that a Nazi-like force could come to power in the United States.

“If you go back and look at the history of the world, tyranny and despotism and how it starts, it has a lot to do with control of thought and control of speech,” he said, although he refused to outright say he was referring to President Obama.

Jews could have prevented the Holocaust if they had guns

In an interview with CNN in October, Carson blamed the Holocaust on the fact that Nazis took guns away from the Jewish people. “I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed,” Carson said. “There’s a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first.”

When pressed about why he repeatedly uses Nazi metaphors, Carson blamed the media for stirring controversy, saying that he’s heard “from many people in the Jewish community, including rabbis, who said, ‘You’re spot on. You are exactly right.’”

College campuses should be monitored for liberal political speech

On Glenn Beck’s radio program in October, Carson advocated for the censorship of “extreme political bias” on college campuses, saying the Department of Education should “monitor our institutions of higher education for extreme political bias and deny federal funding if it exists.”

The next day, he clarified during a different conservative radio program that his plan wouldn’t hurt conservatives. When host Dana Loesch asked if “the pendulum would swing the other way and we would see sort of like monitoring of political speech for conservatives,” Carson assured her that it would not. “I think we would have to put in very strict guidelines for the way that that was done,” he said.

Muslims should be disqualified from the presidency

During an interview on Meet the Press in September, Carson now infamously said that a Muslim could not become the president of the United States. “I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation,” he said. “I absolutely would not agree with that.”

Instead of apologizing, Carson went on to explain his remarks. In order for a Muslim to become president, he said, “you have to reject the tenets of Islam.”

There’s a war on ‘what’s inside of women’

During a campaign stop this summer, Carson denied the argument used to describe the Republican Party’s policies that restrict women’s rights.

“There is no war on women,” he said. “There may be a war on what’s inside of women, but there is no war on women in this country.”

Being gay is a choice because prison turns people gay

Carson said in a CNN interview in March that homosexuality is a choice, citing people who “go into prison straight – and when they come out, they’re gay” as proof. He later attempted to apologize for the remarks in which he addressed those who were offended, but reinforced his belief that sexual orientation is chosen.

Carson has also called marriage equality a “Marxist plot,” described marriage equality supporters as “enemies of America,” and compared homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality, another statement that led him to similarly “apologize” for his “poorly chosen words.”

There’s no such thing as a war crime

Carson also said earlier this year that the U.S. should not hesitate to send troops to defeat the Islamic State and should not fear prosecution for any of its actions abroad. In the Fox News interview, he suggested that the military should not be subject to any war crimes law.

“If you’re gonna have rules for war, you should just have a rule that says no war,” he said. “Other than that, we have to win.”

Obama is depressing the economy to keep people on welfare

After appearing on The View last year and saying that Americans have become dependent on welfare, Carson elaborated on Fox News. “Do you think that people who are on welfare want to be on welfare?” Fox’s Megyn Kelly asked him.

“I think some people have that as a way of life,” Carson responded, later adding that “perhaps some of the things that are going on right now which could be easily remedied are not being remedied in order to keep the economy depressed because there would be no appetite for many of the social programs if people were doing well.”

Obama signed immigration reform to bring in government-dependent voters

After speaking out about welfare, Carson said in an interview months later that Obama’s executive action on immigration was part of a “nefarious agenda” to bring new voters into the United States who will be dependent on government.

“Is he just trying to instead of get out the vote, bring in the vote?” former Republican Rep. J.D. Hayworth asked Carson. “Is this all designed to have new voters — despite the fact he claims they’re not going to get citizenship — is the long-term goal to bring in a new class of voters dependent on government?”

“Of course it is,” Carson replied.

Congress should be able to remove judges for voting for marriage equality

In an interview with a conservative radio host earlier this year, Carson said it was “unconstitutional” that judges have ruled in favor of equality despite statewide ballot initiatives that resulted in different outcomes. Carson said that when federal judges make rulings like this, “our Congress actually has the right to reprimand or remove them.”

Anarchy could cancel the 2016 election

Carson warned in an interview in 2014 that if we “continue down this pathway that we are going down,” referring to “this pathway where everything is framed in a political sense and our representatives are not working for the people, they’re working for their party,” then the anarchy could lead to the 2016 election being called off. He claimed that the growing national debt, ISIS and the then-Democratic controlled U.S. Senate’s refusal to consider legislation passed by the Republican House of Representatives all pointed toward the idea that the country is headed toward anarchy.

If Carson’s prediction proved to be true, he said, Obama could declare martial law and the 2016 election would not occur.

Note: This post is an updated version of a post previously published by ThinkProgress when Carson launched his campaign in May 2015.


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‘Hitler’ could happen in the U.S. today-

ray, he's right about that one. I'd say we are especially vulnerable today simply becuase the media has become a propaganda machine.
If you go itno the mideast i bet alot of them would say that Bush was worse....

the Dems are praying they can run against Carson...

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Glass I have had some feelings about this my self and I have kept quite about them. I don't think we are ready for a hitler right now but we are getting close. some of the current things you could look for.

Hitler told the german people your leaders sold you out and they are stupid.

Going to rebuild the military and we will get respect.

full employment

and a national scapegoat that every body can hate.

That's it right out of text book plan simple and it works.


we will get respect.

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quote:
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‘Hitler’ could happen in the U.S. today-

ray, he's right about that one. I'd say we are especially vulnerable today simply becuase the media has become a propaganda machine.
If you go itno the mideast i bet alot of them would say that Bush was worse....

the Dems are praying they can run against Carson...

Carson will never be the guy. He's smart... Quite smart... But he has NOTHING in the way of true leadership presence .

As far as Bush being worse than Bammy? As far as a Middle East perception? I can tell you from the many people I talk to in the region daily ... No one efn cares as there is no difference.

I've stated many times there is no difference when it comes to the ACTUAL actions of our presidents.

It is all scripted .

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