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Paul Ryan: I Didn’t Lose Because Of The Issues, I Lost Because Of The ‘Urban’ Vote

By Igor Volsky on Nov 13, 2012 at 9:05 am


In his first interview since losing the election, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) wouldn’t admit that voters rejected his economic vision and instead chalked up President Obama’s victory to a large turnout of the “urban vote.” “I don’t think we lost it on those budget issues, especially on Medicare, we clearly didn’t lose it on those issues,” Ryan to local station WISC-TV. “I think the surprise was some of the turnout, some of the turnout especially in urban areas, which gave President Obama the big margin to win this race.”

But Ryan’s post-election analysis contrasts sharply with his view of the race before Election Day. Throughout the campaign, Ryan — who was selected for the ticket because of his budget plan — insisted that the race presented voters with a “choice” between two different economic paths for the nation and repeatedly tried to sell the merits of his proposal on the stump. Republican lawmakers bragged that should the GOP ticket win, “they can justly claim a mandate” to push through Ryan’s initiatives. Here are just three examples of the former Vice Presidential candidate making the same argument:


– “The president, I’m told, is talking about Medicare today… We want this debate. We need this debate. And we will win this debate.” [8/16/2012]

– “We have a big choice to make. We’re not just picking the next president for a few years. We are picking the pathway for America for a generation.” [8/27/2012]

– “We’re entering what we call the debate and choice phase of this campaign. And we’re going to give the people of this country the right and opportunity to choose a different path.” [10/01/2012]

Indeed, Obama made raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans a centerpiece of his campaign and voters overwhelmingly agreed with his approach. Exit polls showed that 6 in 10 voters nationwide say they think taxes should be increased and Ryan’s budget proposal played an important role in Senate races where Democrats picked up seats.

And while seniors backed Romney/Ryan at the same rate as Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) in 2008, a survey commissioned by the AFL-CIO “showed that by 64 to 17 percent, voters want to protect Social Security and Medicare benefits and address the deficit by increasing taxes on the rich, rather than address the deficit by cutting entitlements.”

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in acoustics they call that a resonant circuit. the internal feedback loop can't seem to shut itself down....

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There is nothing new in that article. He was just stating some facts.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
There is nothing new in that article. He was just stating some facts.

LOL cash, with that attitude? we'll end up with hillary as president next...

you really need to start looking how the GOP is failing and losing...

sure the urban comment is thinly veiled racism we all know that. and the non-white vote defintiely went to Obama,
but the only 'group" that Romney and Ryan did get was white males..

women overwhelmingly voted against ehGOp and their platform.... it si time to accept the established laws as what they are, even in MS the push to ban all abortions was stopped athe ballot box.... and cash? we prolly have more churches per capita here than any other state, and if the bible belt has a buckle? it is MS....

the GOP needs to stop trying to get into our bodies and bedrooms and start work on making abortions less frequent by choice not by law...

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quote:
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Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
There is nothing new in that article. He was just stating some facts.

LOL cash, with that attitude? we'll end up with hillary as president next...

you really need to start looking how the GOP is failing and losing...

sure the urban comment is thinly veiled racism we all know that. and the non-white vote defintiely went to Obama,
but the only 'group" that Romney and Ryan did get was white males..

women overwhelmingly voted against ehGOp and their platform.... it si time to accept the established laws as what they are, even in MS the push to ban all abortions was stopped athe ballot box.... and cash? we prolly have more churches per capita here than any other state, and if the bible belt has a buckle? it is MS....

the GOP needs to stop trying to get into our bodies and bedrooms and start work on making abortions less frequent by choice not by law...

Again, I know these things glass. Not sure how many times I have to remind you. The TP and far right and their party of no screwed a lot of things up.

The article just states that Romney did not win in all black voting districts, and these voting districts are located in core urban areas. Does not mean they should not be reached out too.

Hillary? Well that would be fun to watch. At least we would have a President with a long list of experience as opposed to what we have now.

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LOL again i have to point out to you that Obamama has more experince being president than either Hillary or Romney... or even both of them combined

all of these fools trying to secede ain't thinking too sharp cashcow, don't sign one of those even if you wanna...

whenever you buy a gun? you have to sign an affidavit stating that you have never renounced your citizenship, and they may take this mroe seriously than they should....

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I am not talking about PRESIDENTIAL experience. Duh, Obama has more PRESIDENTIAL experience than Hillary or Romney. Really?


Hillary had a lot more experience than Obama when they were running in 2008. A LOT more. She has more political experience than Romney too. Romney was more on the business side. He was successful at business as well.

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cash, the people who decided NOT to nominate Hillary did so because of her track record/experince.

so now you WANT political 'sperince? LOL cash...

Hillary voted for the war in iraq remeber? the one that was waged on the bad itnel? today the GOP is working it's way up to trying to Impeach Obama for having/sharing "bad intel" for possibly two whole weeks about benghazi...

throw in a little sex and intrigue from petraeus (a GOP thru and thru - he was appointed to the CIA Directorhsip pecifically becuase he would pass thru the Congressional processes very qucikly and easily)and now you have the complete media circus only two weeks after the election-

seriously? this is the highway to hell buddy and Obama ain't drivin' this truck... the GOP has thier foot on the pedal and blood int heir eye.

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So far this is what Romney and Ryans political life can be sumed up as.


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