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Pennsylvania Radio Station Runs Misleading Voter ID Ad

By Annie-Rose Strasser posted from ThinkProgress Election on Oct 29, 2012 at 6:15 pm


Nearly a month after a Pennsylvania court suspended the law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls this November, reports of misinformation on the voter ID law are still rolling in.

The latest misleading claim comes from CBS Pittburgh radio station KDKA, which is running an ad claiming that voters will need photo identification to go to the polls on November 6th, despite the fact that while voters may be asked to show ID, it is not required to vote. The ad aired on October 26, around 7:30 am immediately after a weather report for the Pittsburgh area. “The Voter ID law was just recently signed by the governor,” an unidentified woman in the ad says:


NARRATOR: When you need to vote–

WOMAN: The voter ID law was just recently signed by the governor.

NARRATOR: You need to know –

WOMAN: You’re not going to be allowed to vote unless you present an acceptable photo identification. Get to a PennDOT licensing center and get a photo ID at the drivers’ license center.

NARRATOR: It’s your right, it’s your duty, it’s your choice –

WOMAN: And you will need an acceptable ID in order for you to vote.

NARRATOR: Decision 2012. KDKA.



The ad is particularly confounding because KDKA itself has reported on the recent decisions regarding the voter ID law.

But it also follows a trend of misleading information in the state — like billboards and television ads, as well as reports from local governments — that has become so rampant voting rights’ groups have asked a court to step in to stop the wrong information from spreading.

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Jeep going to china another other Romney lie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kQ8ugDa1U0

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No matter how hard you try the people will vote for what they believe in. This whole Banghazi scandal is really sickening especially how Obama is playing politics on it.

I predict mitt will win.

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**GALLUP SHOCK** ROMNEY UP 52-45% AMONG EARLY VOTERS


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/29/Gallup-Shock-Romney-Up-7-with -early-voters

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LOL breitbart? you believe anthing they say as usual cash. breitbart doesn't even claim to be "fairand balanced"...
seriously? did you read anything in the article besides the headline? it's all rumor and innuendo.... the funniest part is how they sampled 3000 whole voters.... wow, better call the elction right now, 3000 people have been surveyed... LOL...

you're pitiful man. especially when you just told us you weren't voting for Romney two or three days ago, after you told us you were voting for him a month or so ago...

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Six Romney Supporters Who Undermine His Claims About The Auto Bailout

By Travis Waldron on Oct 30, 2012 at 9:25 am


As Mitt Romney struggles to gain ground with voters in Ohio, he has attempted to redefine his position on the federal auto rescue that saved as many as 1.3 million jobs. Romney released a highly misleading ad in Ohio this week that criticizes President Obama’s handling of the bailout and touts his own apparently unreleased plan to help the auto industry.

Romney’s actual plan was to oppose federal financing of the auto companies’ bankruptcy; instead, he wanted the private sector to finance the rescue while the government guaranteed post-bankruptcy loans. But private sector financing was “pure fantasy” at the time, according to industry insiders, because credit markets were “bone-dry” in the middle of the financial crisis.

Reporters and auto insiders aren’t alone in their criticism of Romney’s stance on the auto rescue, though. Here are six Romney supporters who have also contradicted his view of the auto bailout or criticized his plan:


1. Michigan Rep. Fred Upton: In February, Upton told Western Michigan University’s WMUK radio that only the government could have saved the auto industry. “There was no one that was willing to come up not only with the cash to keep them afloat but also to serve the warranties of everyone, you and I that drive all these cars,” Upton said. “There was no one that could have picked up those pieces other than the federal government.” He also contradicted Romney’s claim that the rescue was a bailout of auto unions, saying it was “bi-partisan from the get-go.” Without the bailout, Upton said, Michigan “would have hit 40 percent unemployment rates.”

2. Michigan Rep. Thad McCotter: “There was no choice” but to use government funds to save the auto industry, McCotter told MSNBC in February. “So to my fellow Republicans I’ll simply remind them, if you were in Congress at the point in time or if you were President Bush, you could leave all $700 billion of taxpayers hard-earned money with the Wall Street people, or you could take some back to Main Street to keep America a balanced, vibrant economy,” McCotter said. “To me there was no choice.”

3. Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder: In November 2011, Snyder urged Republicans to stop second-guessing the auto rescue, even if they disagreed with how it was done, because it had delivered incredible results for Michigan and the auto industry. “I would have had some differences on how they did it, but I’m not going to second-guess it,” Snyder told the New York Times. “The more important thing is the results. And the auto industry is doing very well today.”

4. Auto Industry Task Force member Harry Wilson: Wilson, a member of Obama’s Auto Industry Task Force who has run for office as a Republican in New York, criticized Romney’s view of the bailout last week. “I’m, as you know, a Republican who supports the governor. But I think on this issue, I think he’s really mishandled it,” Wilson told Bloomberg. “He came out both in 2008 and earlier in 2012, in a piece in one of the Detroit newspapers, and said he wouldn’t have supported any government capital because private capital was available. That’s simply not true.”

5. The Detroit News editorial board: A self-described “conservative newspaper,” the Detroit News endorsed Romney for president last week. But in its endorsement editorial, the paper blasted Romney for his “wrong-headedness on the auto bailout.” Romney “was wrong in suggesting the automakers could have found operating capital in the private markets,” the editors wrote. “Romney suggested government-backed loans to keep the companies afloat post bankruptcy. But what GM and Chrysler needed were bridge loans to get them through the process, and the private credit markets were unwilling to provide them.”

6. Ex-Chrysler CEO Lee Iaccoca: Iaccoca has endorsed Romney, but he also has praised the auto bailout for its rescue of the industry. “Two years ago, it looked like Detroit and Michigan and the car business was in the toilet,” Iacocca told the Detroit News this month. But after the bailout, he said, “things have turned out pretty well.” And even if Iaccoca has criticisms of pieces of the bailout, the paper said he “praised the government actions over the past two years that gave two of Detroit’s Big Three automakers another chance

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If Romney can't take the credit for something he will just lie. sort of like you cash or he will filp flop.

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Mitt Romney’s campaign has been training poll watchers in Wisconsin with highly misleading — and sometimes downright false — information about voters’ rights.

Documents from a recent Romney poll watcher training obtained by ThinkProgress contain several misleading or untrue claims about the rights of Wisconsin voters. A source passed along the following packet of documents, which was distributed to volunteers at a Romney campaign training in Racine on October 25th. In total, eight such trainings were held across the state in the past two weeks and 17 since late September.

One blatant falsehood occurs on page 5 of the training packet, which informed poll watchers that any “person [who] has been convicted of treason, a felony, or bribery” isn’t eligible to vote. This is not true. Once a Wisconsin voter who has been convicted of a felony completes his or her sentence, that person is once again eligible to vote.

The training also encouraged volunteers to deceive election workers and the public about who they were associated with. On page 3 of the packet, Romney poll workers were instructed to hide their affiliation with the campaign and told to sign in at the polls as a “concerned citizen” instead. As Kristina Sesek, Romney’s legal counsel who just graduated from Marquette Law School last year, explained, “We’re going to have you sign in this election cycle as a ‘concerned citizen.’ We’re just trying to alleviate some of the animosity of being a Republican observer up front.”

This packet could cause major problems if Republican observers across the state try to enforce such wrong and misleading information on Election Day. Even if they simply slow the voting process down, this could discourage voters waiting in line and drive drown turnout.

Here are four misleading or incorrect pieces of information disbursed by the Romney campaign:



CLAIM: Any “person [who] has been convicted of treason, a felony, or bribery” isn’t eligible to vote. (Page 5)

FACT: Once a person who has been convicted of a felony completes his or her sentence, including probation and fines, that person is eligible to vote.



CLAIM: Page 8 lists 10 items as “The ONLY Acceptable Forms of “Proof of Residency”.

FACT: The list used is incomplete. There are many other documents people can use to prove residency that are not included, such as letters from public schools, student loan papers, correspondence with a Native American tribe in Wisconsin, vehicle registration, and food stamp correspondances. In addition, the list fails to mention that homeless voters may use an affidavit from a public or private social service agency as proof of residency.



CLAIM: “If a handicapped voter is unable to come into the polls to vote, an assistant can deliver the ballot to the voter if the CEI verifies the elector’s proof of residency.” (Page 10)

FACT: Under Wisconsin law, the CEI (Chief Election Inspector) does not have to verify proof of residency so long as the voter is registered.



CLAIM: “Election Observers should not assist [voters].” (Page 10)

FACT: A voter can ask for assistance from anyone, including a poll watcher, so long as the voter initiates the request and does not engage in electioneering.



Here are the documents in full:



Romney Volunteer Observer Training

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LOL breitbart? you believe anthing they say as usual cash. breitbart doesn't even claim to be "fairand balanced"...
seriously? did you read anything in the article besides the headline? it's all rumor and innuendo.... the funniest part is how they sampled 3000 whole voters.... wow, better call the elction right now, 3000 people have been surveyed... LOL...

you're pitiful man. especially when you just told us you weren't voting for Romney two or three days ago, after you told us you were voting for him a month or so ago...

I am not voting for him, I am voting for Gary Johnson. I prefer Romney over Obama. The only answer I get from you is they are all bad and nothing will change. Well, you still have to pick the lesser of two evils no matter how many things you can point out in both of them.

Glad you think I am voting for Romney though even though I told you otherwise and you are once again assuming something to fit an argument you post.

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Originally posted by glassman:
LOL breitbart? you believe anthing they say as usual cash. breitbart doesn't even claim to be "fairand balanced"...
seriously? did you read anything in the article besides the headline? it's all rumor and innuendo.... the funniest part is how they sampled 3000 whole voters.... wow, better call the elction right now, 3000 people have been surveyed... LOL...

you're pitiful man. especially when you just told us you weren't voting for Romney two or three days ago, after you told us you were voting for him a month or so ago...

I am not voting for him, I am voting for Gary Johnson. I prefer Romney over Obama. The only answer I get from you is they are all bad and nothing will change. Well, you still have to pick the lesser of two evils no matter how many things you can point out in both of them.

Glad you think I am voting for Romney though even though I told you otherwise and you are once again assuming something to fit an argument you post.

cash, i am not going to go back again and pull all of your swinging gate voting claims. i know you said you were voting for gary johnsomn after you said you would vote for romeny and now you are posting lameass breitbart rumor blogs as if they are news. but that's not new for you and that is how you draw nearly all of the ire you ever have from me, which has been quite a bit...

i don't WANT to vote for Obma, i would like to vote against all incumbents on basic principle..

IF, you would bring REAL issues about thing Obam does wrong/ you would hear me agree with you...


the real problem in this country is that more than 90% of it is bullcrap... nobody even talks about hte real problems..

and Taxes? and deficits? look, Obma really is reposnible for about 5% of the money he has overspent and increasing the defict, but theGOp pins it all on him and says they will fix it, but romeny's plan won't fix jack..

gary johnson? isn't he soccer player? no wiat his name isn't euro enough for that - a basketball player? right? LOL... i know, it's not your fault nobody knows who the third party candidates are, but if you are going to vote for him? why haven't YOU shared anything about him with us? huh? instead of just posting trolling material? i would have voted for Ron Paul again if he went third party, not because i think he's right baout everything but because represents an alternative attitude to the American Political system... when you ask him why he won;t go third party? he says it's because change has to come form within, in other words? he wants to change his party-

you know what's funny? Romney could have gotten my vote if had stood up to eh party and said they need to get back to personal liberty ( and out of the whole reproductive gestapo) fair and thrifty spending and BALNCED budgets... isnttead they have gone on htis no taxes crsuade which is bankrupting the coutnry... it's OK tho, they'll just print more,a dn i'll keep buying silver

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Economy

Romney Releases Another False Ad, Revives Claim That Obama ‘Gutted’ Welfare Reform

By Travis Waldron posted from ThinkProgress Economy on Oct 31, 2012 at 9:05 am


After releasing false radio and television ads about the auto bailout, Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign unveiled a new commercial that highlights another one of the candidate’s favorite false claims. This ad, first flagged by the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein, revives Romney’s claim that President Obama has “gutted the welfare work requirement” through a waiver program that Republican governors, including Romney himself, have long asked for.

The ad hits Obama on a number of issues, but the most blatantly false of its claims are aimed at welfare:


NARRATOR: If you want to know President Obama’s second term agenda, look at his first: gutted the work requirement for welfare. Doubled the number of able-bodied adults without children on food stamps. Record unemployment. More women in poverty than ever before. Borrowed from China and increased the debt to over $16 trillion, passing the burden onto the next generation. We may have made it through President Obama’s first term – it’s our children who can’t afford a second.



As reporters, fact-checkers, and the directive Obama signed made abundantly clear, the welfare work requirements will remain in place even if states are granted waivers. The major change is that states will be granted more leeway in how they transition welfare recipients into jobs. That is a change sought and supported by many Republican governors, like Romney endorser Rick Snyder (MI), who said of the program, “More flexibility to governors is a good thing.”

The Temporary Assistance to Needy Families program certainly needs changes — since 1996, it has failed to provide America’s poorest families the assistance they need. But with the election in the balance, Romney has now resorted to making claims in multiple advertisements that even members of his own party say are false.

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How do you know for a fact Romney would not make the economic situation better than what it is right now? How do you REALLY know? You dont.

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How do you know for a fact Romney would not make the economic situation better than what it is right now? How do you REALLY know? You dont.

Why do you believe he will cash?
He has lied to you from day one, yet you still believe he will make your life better...

I guarantee you this...neither Romney or Obama as president will make ANY positive changes in your life. Both of them are owned by big business and big business doesn't give a rats azz about you or me...

Do you ever ask yourself why neither of these clowns EVER talk about the REAL problems in this country? It's because their handlers won't allow them to...PERIOD

Voting for either of these puppets ensures that Wall Street stays in complete control of every economic aspect of your life...

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Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
How do you know for a fact Romney would not make the economic situation better than what it is right now? How do you REALLY know? You dont.

Why do you believe he will cash?
He has lied to you from day one, yet you still believe he will make your life better...

I guarantee you this...neither Romney or Obama as president will make ANY positive changes in your life. Both of them are owned by big business and big business doesn't give a rats azz about you or me...

Do you ever ask yourself why neither of these clowns EVER talk about the REAL problems in this country? It's because their handlers won't allow them to...PERIOD

Voting for either of these puppets ensures that Wall Street stays in complete control of every economic aspect of your life...

I agree with you on that, but with that said there is a lessor of two evils.

What are you all going to do if Romney wins?

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Same thing I'm going to do if Obama wins

Keep buying ammo and silver

Btw..."settling" for the lessor of two evils is just plain dumb

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i just picked up a really nice Volquartsen custom action/target barrel for my ruger mark 2.... it's the first pistol i've ever had besides the Contender that actually jusitifies using the Nikon monarch 2.5 X8 EER scope that i put on it... i had to wait 8 weeks for them to build it, but it was definitely worth the wait...

once i got it sighted in, i took every bit of the 8-9-10 out of the 25 foot slow fire pistol target out with four clips and not one single hole outside the 8... now i guess i need to lay in a couple more bricks of remington subsonics too....

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Sounds like a nice setup Glass...
I have a couple of AR's, AK's, multiple pistol calibers, tactical shotguns and a couple of long range rifles that will get the job done if necessary...Oh and did I mention AMMO

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i highly recomend these guys at Volquartsen, i was introduced to their products when i lived in NE and i have now shot both solid and the "stretch-tesnion" rigidizing system barrels in both pistols and rifles... they both work flawlessly.... keep in mind that the accuracy i am looking for is subMOA, and they have it...

i have put a 20X on one of their stainless .22 ifle barrels and can literally cut single strand 28 g telephone wire at 100 yds.....

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that pattern on the barrel is actaully a carbon fiber sleeve that is used to strecth and rigidise the barrel...

anybody know of a reddot system that is sub-MOA? i have used a couple and the dot is too big to match the accuracy of the barrels [Wink]

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That is the nicest 10/22 I think I have ever seen.

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i've got two that look way better than that IMO cuz i have the better stock, laminated thumbhole, one charcoal and one brown... i also have one like that stock with folding bipod which i use but it doesn't have as good of a feel to me as the thnumbhole stocks...

https://www.volquartsen.com/products/440-laminated-thumbhole-silhouette-stock


funny story about that shooter? i posted a pic of her when she won a three-gun competition earlier this year and one of my kids friends shouts out that he is her bro-in-law.... still waiting on the autographed picture. she has won about a half-dozen interantioanal events this year.. mostly in speed shooting...

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the shooter in that pic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIWS97P1DkY&sns=fb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8iOg57ZmIE

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I'm in love...
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yeah.........

and i think she could win the turkey shoot too....

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seems like Volquartsen agrees with me, they just now changed their cover picture to reflect my tastes:

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scchhhhweeeet!

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That stuff isnt cheap.

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no, but nothing worth having is cheap.....

it's american made and made by people who know WTF they are doing.... kkep in mind me and people who are into this stuff are not shooting at 1 foot targets at 100 yds, we are shooting at quarter and golf ball size targets...

when get into the zone? i have shot ten 10's in a row many times -those tens are the sizs of the .22 slug more or less, at .25"

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