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There suppose to be coming out with a 1000hp Shelby mustang this year. Actually engine put in after but Shelby backing it. Limited amounts 1000.

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Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
There suppose to be coming out with a 1000hp Shelby mustang this year. Actually engine put in after but Shelby backing it. Limited amounts 1000.

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i don't think i've saved enough lunch money for that one... maybe that's a good thing...

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this video is like the oppostire of Shelby and what he stood for, yet his work is a main feature of it...

look at all the cars and enjoy.....
BTW? i'm pretty sure most of the desert shots in here are in Riverside Ciounty which is just south of San Bernadino County. Somewhere around Joshua tree.... It possible they are furhter North even as far up as Victorville/Cajone Pass (awesome drive) cuz that feeds into 10 also... but they would prolly have shot the view looking down the pass if they were that far north...

i am curious about when the video was shot, it appears to be authentic Jim Morrsion which means it was shot between Dec 70 and July 71 and i am 99.9% sure it's a 67 shelby GT500FB.... it's even got the integral rollbars .....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-af9Q-zvQ&feature=related

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boys trying to be men ....,gl with that

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I was listening to one of the radio stations a couple of days ago and they had a caller that had bought a new cobra back in 1967.

At that time he paid $8500 and now still has it with only 26,000 miles on it.

He said it was orange with all original equiptment in excellant shape.

He was asked if he takes it to shows and the guy stated he was hesitant to because someone might follow him back home and steal it.

The disk jockey asked what it might be worth now and this guy said around a million, the disk jockey stated it was a pretty good investment.

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It would have to be flawless to be worth a million.

heres a GT500 at a recent auction with the price

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my dream car is the 429 BOSS-1970 i haven't looked it's price up. I survived my mustang years, whihc was actually quite afeat for me, i had "normal looking one (coupe) with a very very nice motor in it thta i built myself it would not run on street gas [Big Grin]

the probelm with 'stangs was that they go faster than the suspension was really designed for.... i was never very comfortable above 120 even in a straight line.....

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Little more on the lines of this below. This one here is restored, the one the guy was talking about was unrestored mint condition.

http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=MO10&CarID=r268


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i agree, flalwess unrestored could be million, but flawless.

i was looking at the Current state of Boss's out of curisity and came acorss an article that made rally angry.

i was building small blocks that ran like chainsaw engines. I used all stcok or aftermarket factory spec stuff with realitively minor modifications.

I began to do some expirementing in the heads but i never thought of restricting the exhaust flow, everythign i did was about opening it up. I did resrict inflow (as little as possible) in order to weld "nodes" into the intake side to cause swirl. However BOSS head were semi-hemi and had some natural swirl already built in. These guys discovered that by restricting the exhaust flow just right on the 429 heads? They could create even better flow _ duh, it's coutner intuitive until you add in the effect of breaking the speed of sounds and what happens there. The part that makes me angry is where Bob Glidden supposedly talk Ford out of makingit a factory option:

Ford took the heads seriously enough to provide a part number in their catalog. The original intent was to modify the casting process to allow the heads to have enough "meat" to machine the new shapes and to provide revised cooling as well. The head package in the Ford catalog was to have cost $10,000.00 complete. The entire venture went away after we sold Bob Glidden several engines in the winter of 1984. Bob ran our combination for the first time at the 1985 WinterNationals and destroyed every national record in the class (letting of the throttle at 1000 ft.) in his rout of the class.

When Bob suddenly realized what he had, and that the combination would be available to anyone with $10K, he immediately went to Ford and killed the program. Bob went on to dominate the class for 5 years (winning 5 straight championships) in a cake-walk. He had no competition until we (ENDYN) designed the Chrysler B-1 TS "Intermediate" heads, which propelled the Dodge team to 2 convincing championships. When Bob suddenly needed help, we elected not to participate any longer and he quickly learned that "conventional" technology did not work with the Super Swirl heads. Bob spent his considerable fortune "trying" and he is now retired in Indiana.


http://www.theoldone.com/boss429head/index.html

i was a huge fan of Bob Glidden even before he ran that sereis of wins, but had i known that it wasn't even him or his own shop that made that speed? i wouldn't have....

side note? cooling hteheads was always the hardest part of making Ford go fast. I burned a hellofalot of valves... if you look ont he cam am shelby engines? he made a really cool dual outlet intake manifold to draw more coolant thru the heads.... that was genius...

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Problem is with mint expensive cars like the one talked about above is that the average guy will not drive them at all.

For me i want to drive and enjoy it so a few scatches etc. are ok, then i don't have to worry so much where i park or drive.

Can't even imagine having a car like that since 1967 and driving it 578 miles a year.

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me either. i had a frind when i lived in Chesapeake Va (he live in Va Beach) who had a Lambo Diablo cou;dn't go anywhere in it. everybody acted like fools whenever it was visible,
car accidents, people not stopping at stop signs and other wierd stuff....

i (on purpose) didn't paint the right front fender i had to replace on my mustang, which already looked ruough before my grilfriend crunched it. It added to the "sleeper" effect. I got a real kick out of leaving corvettes sitting at the light with a crappy looking car.....

it all comes down to what makes you tick i guess...

the funny part was they'd decide they wanted real heads up cuz they weren't expecting it.... that didn't last long either when i ran the RPMs past 8000 for them just sitting still.... this was back when redlines were moslty about 6000..... today 9000 is a requirement to do anythng...

i have alot more moeny since i gave up my need for speed... but i do miss some of it... not enought to go buy a 90,000$ car toay tho...

we din't even have good roller cam followers (lifters) yet, we did have roller rocker armstho...

theres nothing like the sound of a solid lifter cam tapping with a timing gear instead of a chain... oh well... i love the smell of cam2 it smells like victory [Big Grin]

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I guess you retire with a lot more money driving a car like the cobra 578 miles a year, but you have a lot less good memories.

And maybe a few bad ones, like when i took out two parked v-dubs going sideways in my 427 Vette.

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LOL.... you were OK tho right?

i took out a curb or two, but somehow i've never hit another car on the raod... did bump afew in the driveways adn parking lots...usuaully in the wee hours of the morning after a long night of partying.

i could never figure why you chevy guys were not riding Fords...

there was guy in Florida who's name i can't remember now, that made an engine similar to what i was doing.super high (natyrally aspirated) compression like 14 to one--
he made a 9 second 1/4 mile pass in it one day at an official race. they banned him cuz the car didn't have any safety safety gear like a parachute required if you crack 10 seconds...

Ford had this interchangeable engine set up in FE engines (big blocks like shelby did) and small block windsors- i could interchange the parts from a 289 to a 351 and easily get 14 to one compression the hard part was to make the engine last- those compression rates are without turbo or suprcharging..... just a holly 4barrel (or two if you are drag racing)

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I always loved my Mustangs, had three of them. Never got a chance to have anything more than the GT though. Back in my muscle car days the insurance was so high for my age. Too bad this guy is gone, but he will leave something that will be forever.

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I was okay but the car was missing a little fiberglass, the two V-Dubs weren't bad mainly fenders.

Came out of a party that night and decided to light the tires up a little to much and she got away from me, my parents were not to happy with me when they found fiberglass in the back yard.

The guy with that cobra was saying he paid $8500 in 67, mine was a 68 Vette and i think i paid 4500 new in early 69.

Bought it when i got back from overseas.

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Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:

"I always loved my Mustangs, had three of them. Never got a chance to have anything more than the GT though. Back in my muscle car days the insurance was so high for my age. Too bad this guy is gone, but he will leave something that will be forever."
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Come on CashCowMoo those weren't Muscle Car days back when you were younger, those were lawn mower car days, they just put those big mufflers on them to pretend.

You Couldn't pay more the $100 bucks a year for insurance for those cars, in fact you only need coverage for your car because if you hit one of the muscle cars there probably isn't a scratch on them. [Smile]

I talking the Little Old Lady From Pasadena days.

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Iwish, I drove some sexy mustangs. They might have been GTs, but I made a few mods to them, custom paint, always waxed and clean. The ladies loved them. Always had the women asking to drive them, so that was good enough for me.

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I was just giving you a hard time.

Have had a few Mustangs myself (the car type) but was never that fond of them.

The only mustang i really ever liked the looks of was the 65 convert, never had one.

One of the ones i owned was horrible, ate gas and never went anywhere, so i gave it to my wife. [Smile]

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Back in the day (my days that is) I switched it up and went to a Z-28. Bigger engine compared to the 302, but it felt a little goofy to me and not as easy to control. Plus the engine was harder to work on.

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i just found this review of the 2011 Super Snake with clips of Carrol in it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liLpiev54lA&feature=relmfu


now i must get back to work.... no more playing nomoreplaying nomore....

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