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glassman
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we'll get to watch and see how this plays out...
it won't be pretty...

U.K. faces sharpest spending cuts since WWII
It's 'time to turn around the debt supertanker,' Treasury chief says


LONDON — Britain will cut half a million jobs, sharply reduce welfare payments and raise the retirement age as part of an unprecedented cost-cutting drive that will test the strength of both the economy and the ruling coalition.

Treasury chief George Osborne on Wednesday announced the country's largest cuts to public spending since World War II as part of a five-year austerity plan.

Osborne confirmed he had ordered 83 billion pounds ($130 billion) in spending cuts through 2015, which he claims are necessary along with tax increases to wipe out a spending deficit that reached 156 billion pounds last year.

'Unavoidable'
As many as 500,000 public sector jobs will be lost and dozens of scheduled government programs halted. He said that even Queen Elizabeth II would take a hit, cutting her royal household budget by 14 percent over four years under the plans.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39754325/ns/world_news-europe/

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Britain is starting to figure out what you have to do. Wish we could, but we just have to keep spending apparently.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
[QB] we'll get to watch and see how this plays out...
it won't be pretty...

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Britain is starting to figure out what you have to do. Wish we could, but we just have to keep spending apparently.

LOL. cash... watch and learn. they are cutting 500,000 jobs. But they have 2% better unemployment rate than we do

October 13 2010 - The unemployment rate stands at 7.7% - down 0.1% over the quarter. 29.16 million people were in work in the period June to August according to the labour force survey (LFS). The number of people employed was up by 178,000 this quarter and up by 241,000 from last year.

http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/jobmarket/unemployment.htm


in America the same depth of job cuts as a percentage of the workforce would equal about 1.5 million jobs....

that would increase our *reported* jobless rate from 9.X to 12.X%


now consider that Britain was foolish enough to join US in Iraq and borrowed the money to do it too. Their economy is only 2.3 trillion compared to our 14 trillion. Which is really not too bad when you consider they 1/5th the amount of people we do

pay most attention to the fact that they are raising taxes, this going to make some people here scream, but as i have been saying since Bush cut taxes? This was inevitable and it's inevitable here too:

Britain’s new bank tax is due to operate from Jan. 1 as part of a plan to “extract the maximum sustainable” revenue from financial services firms and so plug a record budget deficit, Osborne said yesterday.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-21/britain-s-bank-levy-threatens-multiple- tax-payments-bba-says.html


Households with an income of more than £48,000 will each lose about five per cent of their annual earnings by paying thousands of pounds extra in tax while losing benefits and access to public services, Treasury figures indicate.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/10/21/130719721/economists-debate-the-p hilosophy-behind-british-budget-cuts


this is not going to be supported by anybody in the US politically.

all those town hall screamers? they were people complaining about LOSING health care provided by to them by the Govt.

they were not complaining baout the Govt taxing them too much, or the Govt giving them too much.

the American People will not accept less govt. watch as this unfolds.

and? unlike the Europeans and hte Brits? we are Citizens not Subjects. That means we are armed.

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So because some kind of welfare or government assisted program is nice and helps people, but they have no money to fund it...that somehow they have to keep the program?


Why arent they talking about social security reform here in the US? That was one thing Al Gore I believe was into. Some kind of locked box theory I think. If SS funds go to the treasury first THEN go to who knows where.....wtf?

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
So because some kind of welfare or government assisted program is nice and helps people, but they have no money to fund it...that somehow they have to keep the program?


Why arent they talking about social security reform here in the US? That was one thing Al Gore I believe was into. Some kind of locked box theory I think. If SS funds go to the treasury first THEN go to who knows where.....wtf?

i voted agianst him because he looked like a robot to me...

i figured Hillary was inside a Gore body suit [Big Grin]

seriously? when was the last time you saw them together?
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Al Gore is too busy making a ton of cash by scaring people to be hanging out with Hillary.

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Look what else is going on England:

Cafe owner ordered to remove extractor fan because neighbour claimed 'smell of frying bacon offends Muslims'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322435/Cafe-owner-ordered-remove-extrac tor-fan-case-smell-frying-bacon-offends-passing-Muslims.html#ixzz131gDaqFM

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cash, did you read hte article all the way?

the guy isn't a Muslim and he says it makes HIM sick, and his Muslim friends won't visit...

what a waste. there's one of those in every neighborhood, not even worht the time to read it...

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Its just one little piece that keeps adding up glass, you have to admit there is a trend.

Also, for all of you here who love increased government spending and influence...what SHOULD Britain do differently? What do you do when you are broke? Keep spending?

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Its just one little piece that keeps adding up glass, you have to admit there is a trend.

Also, for all of you here who love increased government spending and influence...what SHOULD Britain do differently? What do you do when you are broke? Keep spending?

no cash, it's not one little peice.

the title implies Muslims complained. NONE did. it's bullcrap...
i've got cropdusters here that i would like to shut down.

i've lieved in places where they are shut down too. but i don't because they make money, some people hate to see other people make money that's all that is about..

it happens in every town in this country every year....

that's why i live outside of town... no laws here, and no one to complain.... i learned that 35 years ago..
of course that means when my neighbor burns plastic in their yard, (which they do)and stinks up the 'hood? i have to live with that too.. or go over and piss on their fire when they ain't looking [Big Grin]

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Why does your neighbor burn plastic in their yard, isnt that kinda weird? When I was a kid I was always making fires and burning anything that looked like it was fun to burn. Plastic was always fun, it drips fireballs if it gets going good.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Why does your neighbor burn plastic in their yard, isnt that kinda weird? When I was a kid I was always making fires and burning anything that looked like it was fun to burn. Plastic was always fun, it drips fireballs if it gets going good.

they burn wire down to get eh insulation off, they burn garbage in their fire pit which is usaully a round bottom offa river buoy with legs welded on.... They don't have enough sense to cut holes in the bottom for airflow and the fires stink to high heaven...The plastic soda bottles and other detritus they throw in smolders for huors...

there's even a statewide burn ban on and i can go find two right now within 1/10th mile, i smell thmem... it's

it's just how peole are cash, it's why we have to have Govt regulation.

people will crap in their own drinking water if you don't have rules... don't beleive me? More soldiers in the Civil War died from it than from battle wounds... and that was not the last epidemic of amoebic dysentary in this country...

Approximately 620,000 men-360,000 Northerners and 260,000 Southerners-died in the four-year conflict, a figure that tops the total fatalities of all other wars in which America has fought. Of these numbers, approximately 110,000 Union and 94,000 Confederate men died of wounds received in battle.

twice as many died from simple tidiness related diseases...

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people will crap in their own drinking water if you don't have rules...

Most do crap in drinking water. That is, we pay local gummint to treat water and pipe it to us, then flush toilets with it.

Then we pay again to treat sewage.

Kwazy [BadOne]

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yeah and then they complain about how much it costs as if it's somebody else crapping in the water [Wink]

and treat teh people who do the work like second class citizens...

the doctors&pharmas would love this system to be done away with- more profits for them [Big Grin]

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