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no....look, we need national healthcare..now..and this needs to be passed..now..please stop with the scare tactics,which only show your party first indoctrination..pathetic..and yes..tax the rich a little more to get it...seems fair and kinda like a christian attitude,if you ask me. Isnt that what the christians preach?..help those less fortunate..??..when can we hold our head up high again??..maybe now is the time! lets take these baby steps now so we can become a strong, ,loving, nation who takes care of our own,, instead of letting them be picked clean by the healthcare business,,.
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Yeah thats the mentality Jordan...tax the rich. Those slimeballs dont need that money they earned anyway. Rich will pay for everything, tax them more for healthcare, cap and trade, capital gains, etc
News for Democrats....$250,000 is not rich these days. You add the coming inflation and it really isnt much. Spread the wealth around right? I am all about giving and helping out, but not being FORCED to purchase things. Fines for not buying health insurance?
WHY IS THE IRS INVOLVED IN HEALTH CARE?
This bill stinks. It has Chicago politics written all over it and all of you here know it. HOW this bill is being made is far worse than the bill itself. The perversion of this bill with all the shady deals and under the table givings....and dont tell me thats just the way it is as an excuse.
GARBAGE
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: no....look, we need national healthcare..now..and this needs to be passed..now..please stop with the scare tactics,which only show your party first indoctrination..pathetic..and yes..tax the rich a little more to get it...seems fair and kinda like a christian attitude,if you ask me. Isnt that what the christians preach?..help those less fortunate..??..when can we hold our head up high again??..maybe now is the time! lets take these baby steps now so we can become a strong, ,loving, nation who takes care of our own,, instead of letting them be picked clean by the healthcare business,,.
Jordan just what is your problem with people being successful? Envy? Take more? The problem is...you think you are right. You really do, and a lot of the things you think are right are really wrong. Just wanted to give you a heads up.
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Health care will come if not now soon I have been fighting for it for 25 years and if I live long enough I will fight for it another 25 years if that is what it takes.
It is getting closer all the time those that kill it anymore will be considered evil people.
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I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
quote:Originally posted by Peaser: Hmm, so is it constitutional to force an american citizen to purchase a product?
NO.
Also, it is the middle class, not the rich who will bear a large burden of the tax increases to cover this bill.
Happens alla time: car insurance; highways; police/fire personnel; emergency rooms; telephone fees; utilities; education; bombs/ships/planes/missiles... on and on
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Jack is a close friend of the family and Patty is my mother.
At dinner on Friday evening, Jack indicated he had the solutions for America. Patty suggested he write them down and lo and behold he did! (I have them in his own handwriting, but the faxed copy didn’t come through clear enough to scan, so I put them into A Word Document to share with you (I got your email from Jack’s eMail List, so you may get duplicate copies.) At Jack’s request, I am also putting this on FaceBook.
Think we should make Jack Our Benevolent Dictator for life!
Jack’s Simple Solutions for America
ü Term Limits: 8 years Senate; 4 years House.
ü 20 years jail time for giving or taking bribes for votes.
ü Tort reform for Health care.
ü Insurance companies can operate in any state.
ü LOSER in court cases pays “all costs.”
ü 1 year moratorium for bringing money from overseas back to U.S. Tax free.
ü All House and Senate votes: up or down only.
ü Reinforce borders.
ü Let a “higher class” of immigrants in U.S.
ü Implement the “Fair Tax.”
NOTE: Only the people who sign up for above will even be considered.
quote:Originally posted by Peaser: Everyone has a choice in purchasing the things you mention from a non-government entity.
With health care going forward, this will no longer be the case.
In Texas, you have to buy car insurance. There's lottsa pavement poured where I'd rather not have a highway, yet they don't maintain/expand the highly trafficked areas. I suppose you could buy a large acreage and have a private highway, but the point is you pay for the public highways whether you like the placement, design, etc--or not. I would have much rather not spent billions in Iraq, but I ponied up my share just like every other taxpayer. So, yeah, we pay for stuff we don't necessarily want or agree with, alla time...
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Now, the government never took over auto insurance providers, so I have hope that they will not attempt to take over health care insurers.
Obama, and Biden mentioned about controlling health care insurers and eventually wanting a single-payer system.
I do not believe that this new law will affect health insurance providers as what has been told us. If it were so, then CEO's of the health care companies would be screaming out against this new law. I'm sure that they were some of the first to figure out what was in it as soon as it was released. For all we know, the insurers may have met with the dems to write the thing.
After all, 10's of millions of new customers will be paying for healthcare in a few years.
I am curious to find out if private insurance would be able to pay comparable rates as medi-care/ade do, when it comes to paying doctors/hospitals for services rendered come 2014. I haven't heard or seen anything about this yet.
quote:Originally posted by Peaser: Now, the government never took over auto insurance providers, so I have hope that they will not attempt to take over health care insurers.
Obama, and Biden mentioned about controlling health care insurers and eventually wanting a single-payer system.
I do not believe that this new law will affect health insurance providers as what has been told us. If it were so, then CEO's of the health care companies would be screaming out against this new law. I'm sure that they were some of the first to figure out what was in it as soon as it was released. For all we know, the insurers may have met with the dems to write the thing.
After all, 10's of millions of new customers will be paying for healthcare in a few years.
I am curious to find out if private insurance would be able to pay comparable rates as medi-care/ade do, when it comes to paying doctors/hospitals for services rendered come 2014. I haven't heard or seen anything about this yet.
Hate to tell you this, cause I can read pretty well. But I'm sincerely not understanding your post.
I don't know about "government taking over auto insurance," but I do know that in my state we have to have it.
Which is a good thing.
As you might imagine, if I or my buddies get whacked by an uninsured driver, we eventually wind up at their door step, which can get messy. Much better that every driver has insurance.
What's to quibble?
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And...I simply call my insurance agent when I want to--my schedule--and re-up. Could be monthly, quarterly, annually: doesn't matter--my choice.
[edit] talking about auto insurance.
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: And...I simply call my insurance agent when I want to--my schedule--and re-up. Could be monthly, quarterly, annually: doesn't matter--my choice.
[edit] talking about auto insurance.
But you don't have to have a car, so the cost of insurance is part of the cost of driving. No car no car insurance.
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Hate to tell you this, cause I can read pretty well. But I'm sincerely not understanding your post.
I don't know about "government taking over auto insurance," but I do know that in my state we have to have it.
Read the following sentences instead of pulling a partial quote and taking it out of context.
Now, the government never took over auto insurance providers, so I have hope that they will not attempt to take over health care insurers.
Obama, and Biden mentioned about controlling health care insurers and eventually wanting a single-payer system.
Which is a good thing.
As you might imagine, if I or my buddies get whacked by an uninsured driver, we eventually wind up at their door step, which can get messy. Much better that every driver has insurance.
What's to quibble?
Everyone who has the PRIVELEDGE of driving(owning) a car should have liability insurance.
Anyone who has the RIGHT to healthcare should not be fined, or given a misdemeanor for not wanting it.
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I think the reasoning is, with cars, other drivers deserve to be protected. Some places, they confiscate your vehicle if you can't prove up.
With society, everybody needs health insurance, first, for themselves, second, to keep system costs down, i.e. "withs" paying for "withouts," one way or another.
Imagine the uproar if they just "gave it away."
"No insurance needed--just pick a doctor and the gummint will pay."
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