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SeekingFreedom
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Ok, I'm starting a thread for those of us that love our guns. Gun haters...don't bother posting. Just looking for posts about specific guns that each of us like or have heard about that we want to know more about.

To start, I saw a new 1911 clone from Remington the other day. I like the fact that it's under $700 and Remington is a good brand; but I'm worried about, well, only paying $700 for a 1911. Input?

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http://1911r1.com/Products/Firearms/Model-1911r1.aspx

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Thats a nice 1911! You know I have always wanted an HK-91, I also like the FAL.

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I might bother posting...I'm not sure yet...{shrugs}

I'll have to think about it some more..

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quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
I might bother posting...I'm not sure yet...{shrugs}

I'll have to think about it some more..

Rofl, if it's a 'bother', Jordan, dont stress about posting. I started this to provide at least one thread where politics shouldn't come into it. (shrug) If you like guns, share. If not, leave it be.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Thats a nice 1911! You know I have always wanted an HK-91, I also like the FAL.

I've never fired either one, but from what I've read on both, they are primarily 'historical' pieces. High tech at the time, but a little behind compared to current rifles. I don't mind ponying up good cash for a solid firearm but I'm not into buying them as collector pieces.

For sure though, if you have the cash to spare, spend it on firearms. [Smile]

If you're looking for a 7.62 rifle, the Century Arms guys have a neat bullpup AK for under $700 as well.

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anything in that caliber from Remington should be OK.


I say that w/o testing it, it sounds ok.

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What about a good ol fashioned crossman pump action pellet rifle?

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Remington is a good rifle I own about three of them all hunting rifles from the custom shop I really don't know about all these assualt guns.

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OK, if i was in the market for another gun? i'd be looking closely at this chambered for .338 Lapua Magnum:

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The Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Rifle System is perhaps the world's strongest and most reliable weapon. The machined action is bonded to a full length alloy chassis system for brutal strength in even the harshest environments. Featuring a 2 stage trigger, 3 position safety and proof tested barrel, the AW offers dependable accuracy that professionals can rely on. The AW series features available options such as a folding stock, adjustable cheek piece and a buttspike for long observation periods. 5 round magazines for .300 & .338 models.

See the Accuracy International Rifle Brochure (PDF Format 2MB) for more information.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/AI-AWM300.html

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here's your HK91 in .308 cash:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/LGC-A016119.html

and yeah the FAL is great gun too....

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HK53 in .223 is prolly better than the 91....

i had a chance to "evaluate" one once and it had no climb...

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I was watching either History or Discovery and they were showing that IA rifle, Glass. The (really) cold bore shot testing was really impressive. They were showing how it's nearly frost proof down into the double digits sub zero. Probably more gun than most will need...but when has that stopped anyone from buying? lol

The $6000 price tag though...that's getting into Barret territory. [Wink]

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the Cheytac Intervention would be my choice over Barret, it's easier to handle the recoil and the gun was designed around the *correct* round (.408)rather than trying to force the Browning auto 50 into a supposed shoulder weapon....

if you want? there's plenty of quality AR10's in the .3XX rounds now that are very accurate, and more reasonably priced....

as to cost? yeah, but i pretty much have what i really want already, and i don't live out west anymore where longrange shooting is more practical... i had my rt shoulder rebuilt a few decades back and it's not much fun shooting the really heavy loads anymore...

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The HK91, .308 is what it runs! A wee bit on the heavy side, but you can dump some serious firepower pretty fast downrange.


The AR-10's are smooth, and lighter. They just need a heavy barrel as opposed to the 5.56 round.

My two fav gun websites:


www.gunbroker.com

www.auctionarms.com


HK91:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=178803024

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
What about a good ol fashioned crossman pump action pellet rifle?

There are several good pumps on the market, if you want reliability over velocity. Nowadays, for "homestead" apps, the nod usually goes to spring-powered, break-barrels; one action and you're ready, plus high velocity near the capability of the pellet. Some even are too fast.

GAR makes one that is *not* break barrel, ie, it's still one action, but the barrel stays in place, for (theoretically) better accuracy.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
What about a good ol fashioned crossman pump action pellet rifle?

There are several good pumps on the market, if you want reliability over velocity. Nowadays, for "homestead" apps, the nod usually goes to spring-powered, break-barrels; one action and you're ready, plus high velocity near the capability of the pellet. Some even are too fast.

GAR makes one that is *not* break barrel, ie, it's still one action, but the barrel stays in place, for (theoretically) better accuracy.

I have seen some cheap chinese break barrels, but they are cheap. Do you know any good brands with a velocity of 1000-1,200FPS?
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Here's a 1250, .177, economy grade:

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Gamo_Rocket_air_rifle_combo/2125

look around that site--hundreds of choices.

I bought my son a Stoeger .22--on sale at Academy. Before I'm done, we'll prolly have about four, including at least one of the classics: Sheridan, Beeman etc. Spring-loaded do eventually break, but normally it takes thousands of rounds.

Competition is .177 caliber, but I'm interested only in .22...

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/show.pl?cmd_category=show&category_id=5

[edit] The Stoeger is .177 caliber. I'm getting .22 for myself.

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Here's some "fixed-barrel" models. The idea is that break barrels can re-seat at slightly different positions, but fixed barrels never change:

http://www.airgundepot.com/fixed-barrel-air-rifles.html

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i got Jr the beeman sportsman 1000 cuz it had good sights and a scope rail (i got it unscoped cuz i have others) but i don't like the piston action when you pull the trigger...the gun jumps a tick before the pellet even begins to move, not even close to the crossmna pumps accuracy-

i had an old crossman pump for years and years, but they come with a crappy sight... however, they don't jump like this beeman does when you squeeze the trigger...

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ya, scopes are a problem for the spring-loaded cuz they actually have recoil.

My son's X-10 (which is .177) has nice sights: green dots framing the rear adjustable, pink/red on the front. You can see 'em in detail inserts here:

http://usa.stoegerairguns.com/products/stoeger_x10_airgun.php

The stock is hardwood (nice n hefty), not synthetic.

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i guess you could call it recoil... feels odd to me...
i am spoiled by my .22's they are alot more fun to shoot.....

i got it to teach him safety, 'fore i hand him a semiauto...

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Ya, the new nitro pistons reduce recoil and report, but the regular spring-loaded will ruin a scope that's good enough for say, the Beeman or the old Benjamins or Crossmans.

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Thanks for those links! BTW are air rifles considred actual firearms? I always wondered that.

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SF...you want a NICE 1911...go with a Kimber

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quote:
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SF...you want a NICE 1911...go with a Kimber

I like the look of Kimbers, Buck...just always wondered how much of their price tag is warranted and how much is for the name.

The Pro Carry 2 is about $200 more than the Remington above, which isn't a disqualifier if the quality is that much better.

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When it comes to 45's I still love colt if you can find them.

I have a gold cup, 2 1911's, and an officers. I love shooting them all.

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I'm personally not really into guns, not against them, I've just never been fascinated with them like some are. A good friend of mine owns this place though:

http://www.kolararms.com/index.html

and I've seen some of the guns that they send out. Those things are works of art that I wouldn't dream of actually shooting. To date the most expensive gun they've produced cost their customer $120,000.00. Virtually everything was customized and it took them almost a year to build it. I never did get a look at that one.

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quote:
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I'm personally not really into guns, not against them, I've just never been fascinated with them like some are. A good friend of mine owns this place though:

http://www.kolararms.com/index.html

and I've seen some of the guns that they send out. Those things are works of art that I wouldn't dream of actually shooting. To date the most expensive gun they've produced cost their customer $120,000.00. Virtually everything was customized and it took them almost a year to build it. I never did get a look at that one.

wow, those are nice guns

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I have to echo Glass here, Up, those are some really nice guns...I'd even go so far to describe them as works of art.

Please send our compliments.

I really like this motif...

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The next step in the high caliber precision fire...

http://www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm

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a 20 MM torture device huh? [Big Grin]

that would hurt, i don't see any way they let the recoil bleed off...

this was one of the main uses for 20MM's until they upgraded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gMMQTt5-c&NR=1

the action starts about 3:30 in...

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Im not into guns either, but I could dig these...


http://www.fitness-women.org/

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quote:
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Im not into guns either, but I could dig these...


http://www.fitness-women.org/

Whoa! those are some she-beasts!
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Something for the Chrysler buyers:

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Chrysler's Ram truck division is taking direct aim at hunters with a unique feature on its new line of Outdoorsman pickup trucks - a gun closet.

Called the The Mopar RamBox Holster, its a rack that can hold two rifles or shotguns inside one of the lockable, watertight compartments located on either side of the pickup bed.

A $205 option - on top of the $1895 price of the RamBox feature itself - the rack can be rotated to hold six fishing poles for those who prefer quieter trips into the great outdoors.

The Outdoorsman starts at $28,350 and includes standard features like scratch-resistant bumpers, puncture-resistant tires, and a towing package. Buyers can order the trimline on most Ram models, including heavy duty and long wheelbase versions.


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That is awesome! However I would be worried about the vibrations and the optics if you are driving on rough terrain.

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