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Parents and relatives don’t, and didn’t, get to place birth announcements in the Honolulu Advertiser or the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. As a Star-Bulletin employee explained to WorldNetDaily, the editors “print what we receive from the Department of Health Vital Statistics System,” and did so in 1961. And the Advertiser worked the same way.
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Member Rated: posted 28-07-2009 14:30 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hawaii health director insists Obama natural-born. Last October, Hawaii’s state health director, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, had tried to dispel false rumors emanating from so-called “birthers” that Barack Obama was not born in the United States. But now that right-wing (and some mainstream) media and GOP members of Congress have been advancing the conspiracy theory over the last several months, Fukino issued another statement yesterday insisting that Obama was born in Hawaii:
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”
CNN’s Lou Dobbs, the most prominent mainstream media figure advancing the myth, has said that Hawaii officials “had destroyed Obama’s original 1961 birth certificate without citing a source.”
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Looks more authentic than the one he posted from Hawaii. Either way, should be quite interesting.
quote:UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA Notice of Electronic Filing The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 8/1/2009 at 10:08 PM PDT and filed on 8/1/2009 Case Name: Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al Case Number: 8:09-cv-82 Filer: Alan Keyes PhD Document Number: 34 Docket Text: NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD. (Attachments: # (1) Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya)(Taitz, Orly) 8:09-cv-82 Notice has been electronically mailed to: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA david.dejute*usdoj.gov Orly Taitz dr_taitz*yahoo.com 8:09-cv-82 Notice has been delivered by First Class U. S. Mail or by fax to: : The following document(s) are associated with this transaction: Document description: Main Document Original filename:C:\Documents and Settings\Orly Taitz\My Documents\Keyes%20rogatory%20motion%202[1].pdf Electronic document Stamp: [STAMP cacdStamp_ID=1020290914 [Date=8/1/2009] [FileNumber=8207635-0] [4da93b34b5fdee7990ff197d1d52961f770acc565b44d7fc733fd17c504b32e2e382d 943286e846ebef328762b316b0afaf37f29aa8cf9f725fa7514c0519f29]] Document description:Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya Original filename:C:\Documents and Settings\Orly Taitz\My Documents\Kenya BC.pdf Electronic document Stamp: [STAMP cacdStamp_ID=1020290914 [Date=8/1/2009] [FileNumber=8207635-1] [2b1e994c5d722e038a18416495d68765cadffdb11fa1066b8c7814f13f52f8ae00b5d 945186f8c08973dd1125cd2526e37cbc74feb3897c09b6b9ce4708491eb]]
Dr. Orly Taitz Attorney-at-Law Orly Taitz Law Offices 26302 La Paz, Suite 211 Mission Viejo, California 92691 Telephone: (949) 683-5411 E-Mail: dr_taitz*yahoo.com
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SANTA ANA (SOUTHERN) DIVISION
Captain Pamela Barnett, § Lt. Colonel Richard Norton Bauerbach § Captain Robin D. Biron § Colonel John D. Blair, § Mr. David L. Bosley, § Ms. Loretta G. Bosley, § Captain Harry G. Butler, § Representative Glenn Casada, Tennessee § Jennifer Leah Clark, § Representive Timothy Comerford, NH § Charles Crusemire, § Representative Cynthia Davis, Missouri § Civil Action No.: Chief Warrant O. Thomas S. Davidson § SACV09-00082-DOC (Anx) Matthew Michael Edwards, § TRIAL-BY-JURY Lt. Jason Freese, § DEMANDED Mr. Kurt C. Fuqua, § Officer Clint Grimes, § Representative Casey Guernsey, Missouri § Julliett Ireland, § D. Andrew Johnson, § Israel D. Jones, § Timothy Jones, § Alan Keyes, Ph.D., § Commander David Fullmer LaRoque, § Gail Lightfoot, § Lita M. Lott, § Major David Grant Mosby, § MSGT Steven Kay Neuenschwander, § Representative Frank Niceley, Tennessee § Retired Senator Jerry O’Neil, Montana, § SFC E7 Robert Lee Perry , § Representative Larry Rappaport, NH § Colonel Harry Riley, § Sergeant Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, § MSGT Jeffrey Schwilk, § Captain David Smithey, § Lt. Commander John Bruce Steidel, § Cmdr. Douglas Earl Stoeppelwerth § Thomas J Taylor, § Representative Eric Swafford, Tennessee § Captain Neil B. Turner, § Richard E. Venable, § LCDR Jeff Graham Winthrope, and § Lt. Colonel Mark Wriggle, § Plaintiffs, § § v. § § Barack Hussein Obama, § Michelle L.R. Obama, § Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State, § Robert M. Gates, Secretary of Defense, § Joseph R. Biden, Vice-President and § President of the Senate, § Defendants. §
SPECIAL MOTION FOR LEAVE TO CONDUCT PRE-RULE 26(f) DISCOVERY TO DEFENDANT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and CERTAIN NON-PARTY WITNESSES TO PERPETUATE TESTIMONY, PRESERVE EVIDENCE, and to TRANSMIT LETTERS ROGATORY PURSUANT to 28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-(b)(2) The undersigned counsel for Plaintiffs has acquired possession of a color copy of one certain document (attached as Exhibit A to this motion), regarding which there are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document. As should be apparent from the nature and content of the document, if authenticated, and shown to be genuine, the contents of this document will significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period necessary in this case, and might lead to an early resolution by settlement or transfer of these proceedings to the United States House of Representatives and Senate according the procedures outlined in the Constitution. It is also apparent (and hearsay evidence available to Plaintiffs’ counsel aggravates her concerns) that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America. It would appear to the undersigned counsel that either 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2) or 28 U.S.C. §1782(b)(2) or some combination of these statutory authorizations outlines the procedures by which to transmit letters rogatory and other requests to the proper authorities abroad in Kenya and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. For two classes of evidence at issue here, namely all requests for relevant passport materials and other documents existing within the United States of America, as well as all requests to be made through diplomatic channels to foreign tribunals, Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the Secretary of State of the United States of America, and accordingly, Secretary Clinton is the first and primary proper target of letters rogatory to be submitted pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2).
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House passes resolution that states Obama was born in Hawaii, 378-0. This evening, the House passed a resolution sponsored by Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI) that commemorates Hawaii’s 50th anniversary as a U.S. state by a vote of 378-0. The resolution also contains this provision: “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii,” a measure that some GOP members may have had trouble supporting. However, many of the Republican representatives who at expressed at least subtle doubt that Obama was not born in the U.S. voted for the resolution. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), who had earlier in the day prevented the resolution from coming to a voice vote on the House floor, and Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL), who sponsored a bill requiring presidential candidates to prove natural-born citizenship, both voted for the resolution. Rep. John Campbell (R-CA), a co-sponsor of Posey’s bill who expressed doubt about Obama’s citizenship last week on MSNBC, did not vote.
Update Salon's Alex Koppelman says TP attacked Bachmann unfairly in our previous post because Bachmann was simply "playing her part" because "the House had already decided to postpone the votes on all of the resolutions being considered under a suspension of the rules until Monday evening." But the Hawaii resolution was only one of three resolutions that the GOP forced a vote on. Approximately 20 measures were considered today, most of which passed by voice vote.Comments 91 SharePermalink
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Are birth certs printed in english in Kenya? That was the first thing that I asked.. Tried to google it but if you google kenyan BC all you get is sites talking about this BC.
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This going to be very interesting the right thinks they have got something and if they do and prove it we are in for a ride in this country that will be beyound anthing seen IMHO
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So true glass and I am of the ilk that he was born in HI. but you know there is an element in this country that tends to think not and even if proved wrong they don't stop
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Barrack SR appaerntly returned to Kenya in 1964, even more possibility that he was working an angle to get his son back?
the couple married on February 2, 1961,[13] and Barack was born later that year. His parents separated when he was two years old and they divorced in 1964.[12] Obama's father returned to Kenya and saw his son only once more before dying in an automobile accident in 1982.[14]
the document was supposedly created in Feb 1964, so that seems a liitl early to get fake paperwork done, however, the UNCONTESTED divorce was granted March 20 1964.
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Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com [1] Sunday, August 2, 2009
California attorney Orly Taitz has released a copy of a birth certificate that purports to show Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, which if authenticated would plunge the United States into a constitutional crisis and potentially herald a catastrophic loss of confidence in the legitimacy of the government.
The Obama birth certificate issue has been rumbling on for over a year, with researchers demanding to see a complete birth certificate proving that President Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims, yet none has been forthcoming.
Mainstream media attention on the issue has intensified over the past few weeks, even forcing the White House itself to publicly dismiss the controversy.
However, Taitz’ bombshell discovery blows the whole story wide open and its ramifications could be monumental.
According to World Net Daily [2], Taitz has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court seeking authentication for the document.
“The document lists Obama’s parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya,” reports World Net Daily.
“No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.
“WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.”
Despite the fact that a hoax document similar in nature circulated the Internet last week, World Net Daily reports that the new document “bears none of the obvious traits of a hoax”.
The birth certificate was released by an anonymous source who did not want to be named because he fears for his life. “I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds,” Taitz told WND. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].”
If proven genuine, the document could herald a constitutional crisis in the United States and lead to Barack Obama being kicked out of office before he’s even able to complete his first year in the White House.
Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution states, “No person except a natural born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of president.”
Obviously the more likely scenario will be that the court will be strong armed into dismissing the document as a counterfeit by the powers that be.
However, the overt preparations for martial law which have intensified since Obama took office have doubtless taken into account the fact that a complete loss of confidence in the legitimacy of the government could foster civil unrest and make a police state crackdown necessary from the perspective of the authorities.
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However, the overt preparations for martial law which have intensified since Obama took office have doubtless taken into account the fact that a complete loss of confidence in the legitimacy of the government could foster civil unrest and make a police state crackdown necessary from the perspective of the authorities.
"overt preparations"?
the only overt preparations i've seen were during the Cheney presidency
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Yup.. Seems all the things everyone hated Bush for are now being done by Obama... Jeeze where have I heard that before?
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Yup.. Seems all the things everyone hated Bush for are now being done by Obama... Jeeze where have I heard that before?
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Hated Bush for spending too much... ummm...? Hated Bush for continuing with things like the Patriot act... Have yet to see it or any of the similar legislation repealed.. in fact have heard nothing about it... Really has anything changed? We are still continuing with the missle defence sheild. We are still in the Middle East meddling...
Jeeze.. name something that has changed? Other than this one can read.
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Hated Bush for spending too much... ummm...? Hated Bush for continuing with things like the Patriot act... Have yet to see it or any of the similar legislation repealed.. in fact have heard nothing about it... Really has anything changed? We are still continuing with the missle defence sheild. We are still in the Middle East meddling...
Jeeze.. name something that has changed? Other than this one can read.
Ummmmm...He's black ......that and the fact that he's winning over more muslims and when he goes to Iraq...there won't be muslims waiting to through a shoe at his head Posts: 2321 | Registered: Aug 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Hated Bush for spending too much... ummm...? Hated Bush for continuing with things like the Patriot act... Have yet to see it or any of the similar legislation repealed.. in fact have heard nothing about it... Really has anything changed? We are still continuing with the missle defence sheild.
Bro we didn't hate Bush for spending too much....we hated him for spending billions on a war based on lies and greed to give money to companies that the bush administration had ties with. Cheney went on live TV and said he knew where WMD'S were.
Would Obama do that
Seriously Relentless....I lost some faith in your intellectualy ability with your post.
And about that missle defense sheild.....Would you rather Obama not go through with it...I mean with countries like North Korea, Iran, Russia, etc....that these days are advancing their weapons program, and that these days those same countries are jus waiting for an excuse to hit USA with everything they got??? Posts: 2321 | Registered: Aug 2006
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I can't tell you how many tears I've shed after seeing the cruelty of your comment to me. I dare say I need to rush to the hospital to be rehydrated.
So we hated bush because of Iraq? Obama is rushing us out of there and arresting Bush and anyone involved then? Oh... He's not? oops. We hated Bush for spending millions on companies he liked? Obama didn't just spend TRILLIONS on companies he likes? ummm..
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......that and the fact that he's winning over more muslims and when he goes to Iraq...there won't be muslims waiting to through a shoe at his head 
