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http://www.prisonplanet.com/democrat-proposes-law-requiring-firearm-owners-have- 1000000-insurance-policies.html

Not unexpected... But still alarming.

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this is the sort of thing i expected once the dems got into control, and why the GOP needs to clean up it's act but fast.

you'd think they'da learned from the past.

here's how it goes tho. in MS? we have about 30% uninsured drivers statewide, and in my area it's more like 50%.

if they can't even keep insurance on cars out in public? how can they expect it on gun owners?

furthermore? criminals won't bother with insurance at all...

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LMAO glass. C'mon now! That is one knuckleheaded individual in a STATE legislature proposing that insurance. Glass, your GOP is showing, might wanna tuck it back in. [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by Pagan:
LMAO glass. C'mon now! That is one knuckleheaded individual in a STATE legislature proposing that insurance. Glass, your GOP is showing, might wanna tuck it back in. [Eek!]

that's where they test the ideas...

if people don't speak up? the politicians'll assume it's OK...

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If you're hunting with Dick, that would be some pretty good chit to have...

But that story sounds a little far fetched to me. What kind of firearms? Pistols?
Because shotguns for duck or geese hunting would be pretty a hard thing to be required to have $1,000,000 insurance policies on. Take away peoples rifles and see how many people wind up crashing their cars into some f'n deer, or a flock of geese taking down some plane or some chit... Hell, Bugee has a thread on here now saying that's where them damn birds are headed because of global warming!lol

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OK, just up the road in Memphis (that's TN not MS)
the gun controversey began heating up last month:

i get the TV news there from my cable co and they have had several articles in the last month that are just ridiculous.

the worst thing is this:

By Nate Morabito
Reporter / WJHL
Published: February 16, 2009

The National Rifle Association is up in arms over a Memphis-based newspaper’s decision to publish a list of all handgun carry permit holders in Tennessee. Legally, The Commercial Appeal can publish the data due to the state’s public records laws. However, state legislators are now discussing legislation that would make handgun carry permit information confidential. The legislation would also make publishing the information illegal.

Steve Birchfield, a permit holder whose name appears in the database, supports the legislation.

“Why would people need to know?,“ Birchfield asked. “The only people that need to know is the authorities.“

Along with Birchfield’s name, the Commercial Appeal’s website also lists Birchfield’s year of birth, city, zip code and permit issue and expiration dates. The database does not list a person’s address or birth date. Still, Birchfield feels violated.

“That’s privacy,“ Birchfield said. “That’s chopping away at your Second Amendment…why don’t you just go through my mailbox, open my mailbox, and go through my mail? It’s no different.“


http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/local/article/tennessee_newspaper_publishes_co ncealed_carry_permit_holder_list/20389/
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Inside the Newsroom: Case for gun-permit listings trumps emotional opposition

By Chris Peck (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
Sunday, February 15, 2009

Misunderstandings with people who carry guns can turn ugly.

This past week it has been ugly at the newspaper, after passionate gun owners latched onto three very wrong ideas about why The Commercial Appeal's Web site now lists all those in Tennessee who have a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

-- Wrong idea No. 1: The newspaper is against the Second Amendment that gives Americans the right to keep and bear arms.

-- Wrong idea No. 2: The newspaper is invading people's privacy by posting the permit-to-carry-guns list on its Web site.

-- Wrong idea No. 3: Posting the list is empowering criminals.

The Tennessee Firearms Association and others have fanned the frenzy against our Web site posting of the permit-to-carry list. Pro-gun groups orchestrated a protest campaign that has spread nationwide. By late last week, Commercial Appeal executives were receiving as many as 600 e-mails a day, along with dozens of phone calls at home, at work and on their cell phones. Maps to their houses, with ominous warnings, had been posted online.


http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/feb/15/inside-the-newsroom-case-for-gu n-permit-listings/?partner=RSS

publishing the list serves no purpose other than to intimidate gun owners.

The newspaper did edit the state's publicly available list. We removed street addresses and birth dates from the information to lessen any chance that somebody might use information on the list for identify theft. As a result, our posted list of permit holders for concealed weapons has less information about individuals than the phone book, your voter registration form or the credit card you use to buy dinner at a restaurant.

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I don't think I have seen any legislation, proposed or passed, that actually limited a criminal's ability to posses a gun. Each and every legislative act I've seen limits a normal person's ability to own a gun....
Can someone remind me what one of Hitler's first moves was?

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took over the trade unions?

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Here in Ohio, newspapers can not publish the list of concealed carry holders. It is a very dangerous practice that could result in a hazardous situation (someone being killed). Besides the obvious issue of some wacko leftist anti-gun nut causing some mischief, the real problem is that the criminals can determine who is carrying a gun and who has a gun at home. So, if they want a gun, all they need to do is target people on the list. Furthermore, many people carry a gun because they work in marginal areas. Having the criminals know that you carry a gun is very dangerous.
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Having them know which of us don't is the dangerous part...
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quote:
Having them know which of us don't is the dangerous part...
That's true too.
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..so its just danged dangerous out there?..

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It's a LOT less dangerous with a 45 strapped to your side...

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Having the criminals know that you carry a gun is very dangerous.

you're supposed to keep it loaded, sheesh...

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If you ever have a chance to talk to any metro policeman if he is in the know he will tell you in America you could not come close to picking up guns off of people. And as far as criminals go they do't go to the gun shop and buy a gun. You guys joe citizen are the only one registerd

Calm down right wingers your 9mm pistol is not going to stop a tank. Only a criminal.

Any way pass all the laws you want to it will not change the reality how are they going to take your guns?

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quote:
Originally posted by retiredat49:
It's a LOT less dangerous with a 45 strapped to your side...

but what if someone has one too?..do we have a shootout?

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quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
quote:
Originally posted by retiredat49:
It's a LOT less dangerous with a 45 strapped to your side...

but what if someone has one too?..do we have a shootout?
Did Alexander Hamilton leave behind any writings on that situation?
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Oh yeah, beware of the rat curled in that corner over there...

All I know, if any wild turkeys(or ducks, or geese)
try to come into my, and my 14 and 15 pound hounds home, it's on. Take cover son.lol

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REPUBLICANS
AND GUN CONTROL




According to the Bloomfield Press, publisher of Gun Laws of America, Federal gun laws grew larger in 1996 than in the entire decade of the 1980's, which, if you will recall, was a Democrat led Congress. Only two decades in the U.S. history - the 1960's and the 1970's - saw more gun laws enacted by the Congress. Nearly 10,000 new words of gun law bring the Federal total to 83,584!



"The Federal government talked about a gun law moratorium last year", says Alan Korwin, the author of Gun Laws of America. "Instead we saw federal gun law grow by 13.43%. Measured by percentage or by word count, 1996 set records for federal regulation of the right to keep and bear arms.



Three separate bills containing new federal gun laws were enacted during the Republican led 104th Congress in 1996. Modern gun laws are rarely passed as independent bills, where they could be readily debated. Instead, gun laws are generally included in massive pieces of legislation, where their defeat would force scuttling huge federal programs that have broad-based support. Typically, the gun-related portion of such bills is minuscule. In 1996, it amounted to 1.3% of the acts that contained them.



Under the Republican led 104th Congress, a short misdemeanor gun ban was slipped into a 500,000-word document and passed without floor debate, before copies of the 2,000 page bill were available for review. This particular amendment, known as the Lautenberg Amendment, appears to violate eight separate constitutional guarantees. The law now makes prior actions a new crime, which Congress is strictly forbidden from doing in Article I of the Constitution; the ban on ex post facto laws.

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You guys have fun trying to break the second amendment... shouldn't be a waste of your time at all.
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Make up your mind!!!

"Federal gun laws grew larger in 1996 than in the entire decade of the 1980's, which, if you will recall, was a Democrat led Congress. "

"during the Republican led 104th Congres in 1996"

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Surprise! Liberals from Chicago and the rest of the state of Illinois want this. Funny how one of the most politically corrupt cities wants this.

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www.theobamafourm.com


LOL, this looks like bdgee's type of forum.


02-12-2009, 01:24 AM
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Where should gun control start?

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I think the biggest threat to peace, change and hope are gunshop owners. I hope they send the OYB in immediately to round up all these death dealers and put them behind bars as fast as possible. NOBODY is more responsible for deaths of innocent North American Union members than gunshop owners.

Gun shops are also a breeding ground for white hate crimes and racism.
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Have a Gun Shop Near You?

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throw copious amounts of fecal matter at anyone that either works there or shops there. do this until the owner is forced to close shop and get the hell out of your town.

i will send obama a letter asking him to allocate a sizable piece of real estate for these soon to be exiled, walking exhibits of inbred racism to inhabit. if you're feeling ambitious, you can also send him a similar letter. or, for faster results, email his blackberry.

*note- if you're running low on feces, pee on them.
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White men clinging to guns and religion !

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Why are Bitter White Men Clinging To The Past ? Bitter white country folk can’t see a new age has come . Are White men inferior because they are different or just misunderstood by the rest of main stream america? We only have to look at the white mans history of death and destruction. They are filled with anti-immigration sentiment because they fear change. I think that it is a shame because I love my country, grew up in America and that whats america is about. And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion. We’ll see how long that holds true. As for the Republican Party its demise is at hand and a new age will begin. It will be the best thing for all of us when the fascist repuplican party dies with the past. Guns are made only to kill people, they serve no other purpose and need to be outlawed.
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When we get our reperations check

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I have a few questions regarding our checks, first of all will they be given out on debit cards? I know a lot of blacks dont have bank accounts (racist banks dont want blacks and they always force blacks to overdraw their accounts so they can kick black people out), so this would be better than an actual check.

Will people from the carribian get money too? How much are the che`ks going to be for? Will people who are fully black get the full amount and half black people get half the amount?

I am thinking about how to use the money in the most productive way possible, and want to use it wisely. I think the first thing I need is a bigger TV and bigger rims on my hoopdi. Then I need a new grill and I am thinking about going on a vacation. I also need more kids.
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People in huge cities, regardless of political interest or leanings otherwise, generally support gun laws. But that doesn't mean they are anti-gun as the right-wing wants them painted.

Surveys don't necessarily tell the truth or present facts. Consider what would happen with tow surveys, each containing one but not the other of these quires:

Do you believe reasonable restrictions on the ownership and carrying of guns are needed.

Do you agree that the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution says that people have the right to keep and bare arms?

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