Allstocks.com's Bulletin Board Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Allstocks.com's Bulletin Board » Off-Topic Post, Non Stock Talk » 10 reasons we can not drill our way out of high oil prices

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: 10 reasons we can not drill our way out of high oil prices
bond006
Member


Member Rated:
4
Icon 1 posted      Profile for bond006     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
June 19, 2008

PRINT
EMAIL
TEXT: A A A
SHARE
del.icio.us

Digg

Facebook

Google

reddit

stumbleupon

In 2006, President Bush said that the United States was “addicted to oil.” But in a speech yesterday, he echoed an old line when he called for Congress to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, allow access to oil shale, increase refinery capacity, and allow offshore oil drilling in areas that have been off-limits since 1982.

There are many reasons that offshore drilling in sensitive coastal areas is a bad idea. These 10 are only the beginning:

1. We can’t drill our way out of the energy crisis.

According to a report by the House Committee on Natural Resources Majority Staff:

“Between 1999 and 2007, the number of drilling permits issued for development of public lands increased by more than 361 percent, yet gasoline prices have also risen dramatically, contradicting the argument that more drilling means lower gasoline prices. There is simply no correlation between the two.”

2. We don’t have enough oil to meet our demand.

The U.S. oil supply-demand balance is insurmountable. We have less than 2 percent of the world’s known reserves, yet use 25 percent of its oil. Even if we drilled off of every beach, and inside every national park, refuge, and forest, we could not produce enough oil to offset our growing demand.

3. Oil companies have not utilized the leases they have now.

Why open up new areas to drilling when oil companies hold over 4,000 undeveloped leases in the western Gulf of Mexico? What’s more, the government already leases 44 million acres offshore, of which only 10.5 million—or one quarter—are producing oil or gas.

4. Offshore drilling would have an “insignificant” effect on long-term prices.

Offshore drilling in sensitive areas would increase domestic oil production by 7 percent by 2030 compared to a reference case, according to the EIA. But “because oil prices are determined on the international market…any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.”

5. Drilling could lock us in to a future of expensive gasoline.

By committing to costly recovery, oil companies are betting that oil prices (and gas prices) will stay high enough to justify their investments. Opening the Outer Continental Shelf could never bring us back to $2-a-gallon gas, but would ensure that companies that develop the newly available oil have an interest in keeping gas prices high enough to justify their investments.

6. Production would be expensive, would not start for a long time, and would have no short-term effect on oil prices.

The average oil field size in the OCS is smaller than the average in the Gulf of Mexico, which is already being developed As a result, much of the oil in the OCS would be expensive to extract, and is only becoming attractive now as a result of high oil prices.

According the Energy Information Administration, it would take at least five years for oil production to begin. EIA predicted that there would be no significant effect on oil production or price until nearly 20 years after leasing begins.

7. There isn’t enough drilling equipment.

Due to the high price of oil, existing drilling ships are “booked solid for the next five years,” and demand for deepwater rigs has driven up the price of such ships. Oil companies just don’t have the resources to explore oil fields in the OCS.

8. We can’t refine the oil we would extract.

In his speech yesterday, President Bush noted that, “Refineries are the critical link between crude oil and the gasoline and diesel fuel that drivers put in their tanks.” Yet refineries are already so stretched that last year, the United States had to import almost 150 million barrels of gasoline. The Wall Street Journal reported oil companies are not building new refineries because it would be bad for their bottom line. “Building a new refinery from scratch, Exxon believes, would be bad for long-term business.”

9. Drilling more oil now is not the path to a future based on alternative energy.

President Bush said in his speech that “in the short run, the American economy will continue to rely largely on oil,” but “in the long run, the solution is to reduce demand for oil by promoting alternative energy technologies.” Unfortunately, President Bush opposed efforts to shift tax incentives from big oil companies to efficiency and clean energy technologies, such as plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. If alternatives are the future, why propose an oil-based solution to the energy crisis that will not show any results for years?

10. Debating offshore drilling in sensitive areas distracts from real solutions.

Instead of focusing on offshore drilling in sensitive areas, we should be thinking about both short- and long-term solutions to the energy crisis. To reduce oil prices, we can burst the speculative bubble by selling a half million barrels of oil per day from the full Strategic Petroleum Reserve. To help families, we should close oil company tax loopholes and recover lost royalties on oil and gas from federal waters, and return these funds to low- and middle-income households in a fuel price “relief bate” program.

Speculators have increased oil prices by up to $30 per barrel, so the administration should make trades more transparent and increase the “margin” for speculators. In the long run, we must move beyond oil by investing in clean, sustainable biofuels such as cellulosic ethanol, require and promote super fuel-efficient cars, and shift tax incentives away from fossil fuels and toward clean alternative energy and efficiency.

The real solution to the energy crisis—and to the climate crisis—is to innovate, become more efficient, and move forward. That’s why offshore drilling in sensitive areas is a bad idea. For a long-term plan, it is remarkably short-sighted.

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Machiavelli
Member


Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Machiavelli     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
i would have to agree with this article that came out today in the NY post:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06252008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/not_so_straight_ talk_117008.htm

--------------------
Let the world change you... And you can change the world.

Ernesto "Che" Guevara de la Serna

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Ace of Spades
Member


Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Ace of Spades         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think all those reasons are Pure Bull Chit!!!

Forget Oil shale for a second....but if we started drilling offshore decades ago...and were getting all the oil that exists in our waters....We would be laughing at OPEC right now!!!

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Propertymanager
Member


Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Propertymanager     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
That's right, it is all leftist wacko propaganda. They know full well that these points are nonsense (LIES). For example, they claim that all of these leases are outstanding but unused, but many of these leases aren't on land with viable oil reserves. Many other of these leases are going through the permitting process. Still other leases are being explored, which must happen before drilling can occur. Some of the leases have oil that is not commercially profitable at today's prices. It's just more leftist lies.

Moreover, what do the wackos think will happen to fuel prices when they increase taxes on the oil companies? The answer is that gas prices will increase.

What is really needed to solve this entire crisis is a multi-faceted approach: more drilling (everywhere possible); wind power (even in Ted Kennedy's sailing area); more hybrids (like the Toyota Prius) from American Car companies, who have been a miserable failure; new battery technology; new nuclear power plants (a lot of them), etc. The problem is that the wackos on the left are against almost all of these, because their goal isn't energy independence - their goal is socialism!

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
jordanreed
Member


Icon 1 posted      Profile for jordanreed     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
uh-huh...god you're bright..fox news clown,er clone..

do you have an original thought in your head?

--------------------
jordan

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
bond006
Member


Member Rated:
4
Icon 1 posted      Profile for bond006     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You are right we would have all the oil we want at $136. a barrel right now.

You think the Saudi's have all the say in supply? who do you think built all the wells over there It was not the Saudi's

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glassman
Member


Icon 1 posted      Profile for glassman     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
they claim that all of these leases are outstanding but unused, but many of these leases aren't on land with viable oil reserves.

uhh? you mean the oil co's are stupid enough to throw money away because it's only green paper?

please explain why they lease this land if there's no oil on it...

--------------------
Don't envy the happiness of those who live in a fool's paradise.

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
bond006
Member


Member Rated:
4
Icon 1 posted      Profile for bond006     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Member Rated:
posted 28-06-2008 17:18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
April 17, 2008
Where does our oil come from?
Robert Rapier at the R-Squared Energy **** has compiled a list of our Top 10 sources for oil imports.


Marcelo Salinas/For the Chronicle
They are:

1. Canada 680,533 million barrels
2. Saudi Arabia 530,245
3. Mexico 514,480
4. Venezuela 419,841
5. Nigeria 394,856
6. Angola 181,215
7. Iraq 177,009
8. Algeria 161,755
9. Ecuador 72,138
10. Kuwait 64,306

The data is compiled from a broader report issued by the Energy Information Agency.

Technorati tags: energy, oil imports, economy, business
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you notice saudi does not give us more oil canada is where we import the most oil mexico is right on the heels of saudi

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Propertymanager
Member


Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Propertymanager     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
uhh? you mean the oil co's are stupid enough to throw money away because it's only green paper?

please explain why they lease this land if there's no oil on it...

C'mon Glass, you know better than that. They can't explore or drill test wells until they have the leases.
IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glassman
Member


Icon 1 posted      Profile for glassman     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
quote:
uhh? you mean the oil co's are stupid enough to throw money away because it's only green paper?

please explain why they lease this land if there's no oil on it...

C'mon Glass, you know better than that. They can't explore or drill test wells until they have the leases.
actually i do know better than that. you really don't know anything about what you post most of the time do you?

they take out leases on reasonable expectations of getting oil. they do not renew leases if oil isn't there.

you said they take out leases on land with no oil.

--------------------
Don't envy the happiness of those who live in a fool's paradise.

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Machiavelli
Member


Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Machiavelli     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
you really don't know anything about what you post most of the time do you?


You only finding that out right now Glass lol He see's Red Conspiracies everywhere much like in the days of McCarthy.

--------------------
Let the world change you... And you can change the world.

Ernesto "Che" Guevara de la Serna

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Allstocks.com Message Board Home

© 1997 - 2021 Allstocks.com. All rights reserved.

Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2

Share