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So true....but that was all common sense to be honest.....
If anyone chooses one of those majors...they were idiots to begin with...and deserve to have no future.
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quote:Originally posted by Ace of Spades: So true....but that was all common sense to be honest.....
If anyone chooses one of those majors...they were idiots to begin with...and deserve to have no future.
Hence my alert to the "parents on Allstocks".
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there are art history majors that work for sotheby's and christies.... they ain't exactly "sitting quietly at a desk reading a New Yorker and eating a food that requires chopsticks"...
it always comes back to "what you do with what you got"
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And then there are those that pick degrees with no future...like some on that list....but they defend themselfs by saying...
"It's what I love to do"
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"This is what I have a passion for"
And I respect that...but having a passion for something doesn't bring home the bacon.
Why not pick a job that pays very well, and you can tolerate and won't cause to much stress......then in your free time....you can do what you have a passion for as a hobby or something.
This way....you can enjoy what you have an interest in....but not have to live in a cardboard box
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If you cannot make the money you want in the major you took in college then look in another field many do.
The big key is to get that 4 year degree if possible it will open the doors to so many possibilities that you won't have if you do not get that degree.
My son was a business major who works in sales. My daughter was a dance major who has work as a dance instructor in high school ($25 a hour) and after and worked in other industries after graduation, she now is a stay at home mom for awhile.
Like i said the key is get that degree if possible whatever the major. I doubt you will ever regret it and the doors will open if you wish them to do so.
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quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: If you cannot make the money you want in the major you took in college then look in another field many do.
The big key is to get that 4 year degree if possible it will open the doors to so many possibilities that you won't have if you do not get that degree.
My son was a business major who works in sales. My daughter was a dance major who has work as a dance instructor in high school ($25 a hour) and after and worked in other industries after graduation, she now is a stay at home mom for awhile.
Like i said the key is get that degree if possible whatever the major. I doubt you will ever regret it and the doors will open if you wish them to do so.
I respectfully disagree. What you major in does matter. Major in something that will give you a career....and you can always minor in something more frivolous.
IMO, if you go interview for that Sales, Marketing, Banking, etc position and whip out that dance degree....well.....let's just say you'll be dancing right out of that interviewer's door pretty quick.
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I respectfully disagree. What you major in does matter. Major in something that will give you a career....and you can always minor in something more frivolous.
IMO, if you go interview for that Sales, Marketing, Banking, etc position and whip out that dance degree....well.....let's just say you'll be dancing right out of that interviewer's door pretty quick.
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Sorry maybe in some cases but not in many cases.
Many jobs will require a 4 year degree if it requires a degree in a specific field then do not apply. (and it states so)
After that it's up to your interview, blame it on what ever you want for not getting the job.
I have known to many people with four year degrees that have gotten jobs out of their majors that would disprove your theories.
Most employers want to see the effort that is put forth in getting a degree and the general background courses that any degree will bring and the ability to learn things at a higher level.
A good course to take if you are having troubles getting a job is a How to Interview Course.
Although it is harder to find jobs with the economy getting killed.
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I respectfully disagree. What you major in does matter. Major in something that will give you a career....and you can always minor in something more frivolous.
IMO, if you go interview for that Sales, Marketing, Banking, etc position and whip out that dance degree....well.....let's just say you'll be dancing right out of that interviewer's door pretty quick.
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Sorry maybe in some cases but not in many cases.
Many jobs will require a 4 year degree if it requires a degree in a specific field then do not apply. (and it states so)
After that it's up to your interview, blame it on what ever you want for not getting the job.
I have known to many people with four year degrees that have gotten jobs out of their majors that would disprove your theories.
Most employers want to see the effort that is put forth in getting a degree and the general background courses that any degree will bring and the ability to learn things at a higher level.
A good course to take if you are having troubles getting a job is a How to Interview Course.
Although it is harder to find jobs with the economy getting killed.
No matter how you want to spin it. You need to major in a field that is widely marketable. Saying otherwise is nonsense.
If ya wanna dance, then by all means major in Dance. Or you wanna get into the lucrative career field of Latin translation...then by all means major in Latin. Come on...common sense is what I was referring to.
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Wish is right. It doesn't matter as much as one would think. A four year degree will open doors at most companies that would never open otherwise.. doesn't really matter if the degree is in basket weaving or not. Most employers are looking for someone they don't have to spend a year training to use a computer.. or properly structure an email. They want to spend that year training on job specific stuff. Not to mention that a four year degree symbolizes a certain amount of "stick-to-it-ism" that most without a degree can't show without a word.
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Doesn't matter how bright you are, or articulate, or whatever: if the job is for, say, an engineer or an architect or a lawyer, applying with other degrees is a waste of everybody's time.
In many, many discrete, specific job openings, though, merely having finished a 4-year degree--any degree--just might land you that critical interview.
And, of course, a lot depends on timing. For instance, my daughter was substitute-teaching and opted out for Kelly Girls, which allowed her to transfer seniority to another state...where she promptly got assigned to a company making hay during the dot.com boom and BAM-- before you knew it? She was knocking down $50k a coupla years out of college.
Contrast that with-- a few years later -- tech companies on major safari for "unicorns," aka tech writers/programmers/graphic artist: eg...
quote:impeccable grammar, deadline-driven, certified Project Manager; fluent in SAP, Dreamweaver, Robo Help, C++, PHP, Javascript, DHTML & XML; must know PhotoShop & all Adobe suites; Sigma Six preferable. Salary range: $22k to $28k--must sign subcontractor agreement."
In other words, phuk all you older techs who could actually make this thing go...we want kids who will stretch their resume so we can work 'em to death--and forego benefits.
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And then lay them off six months later after they have all signed mortgages and decided to have kids.
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Now is NOT the time to do that. Now is the time to en devour harder.. to make them know you are the hardest working.. the most LOYAL they will find. I'm watching it right now where I am... We are looking at lay offs in a couple months.. And this is only the beginning of the storm.
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The biggest key here to me is to get those degree's (High School, College and beyond) and enjoy your time as much as you can while getting them.
For my daughter a dance major it worked out great.
For us it did to. She started dancing around the second grade. At the time and for many years we thought it was rather costly but it was what she really liked and we never thought it would go beyond just dancing for awhile.
I was assigned the sports programs my wife the dancing. I was required to attend at least two recitals a year.
My daughter and son were always busy in sports and dance and they enjoyed it. It did cost us(in time and money) but i always figured you can pay or you can pay... if they get involved in those bad things.(drugs etc.)
When she landed her dance instructor job with pay at 16 years old i could not believe it. Money was actually coming in, well not to me directly but it was like having a second job because i was not giving out anymore.
She graduated from high school and that was great then she graduated from college and that was even better. She got a chance to audition for shows on Broad-Way through her school which was another perk.
There actually are quite a few good paying jobs beyond the movies and singers for dancers, without even going out of their field.
She actually worked in sales and marketing for a fairly big company when she got out of college. That 4 year degree is what got her in the door.
I have more than enough credits for a 4 year degree but not enough in one specific field to get that degree. (i have a AA degree)
For me i was a man of many majors and minors and a person that tested quite a few junior and major colleges. (8 total)
But by not having that 4 year degree it did not open all the doors that i would have had open if i had just finished and got that degree in any field.
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