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glassman
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the GOP is now (more or less) down to two.

McCain and Romney.
Huckabee is a good choice for either one to take as VP...
Romney needs a southerner and McCain needs a "real conservative" LOL.

I wanted McCain instead of Bush in '00.


OK. here's a very good reason to vote for McCain IMO:

“When I hear Rush Limbaugh say that a McCain nomination would destroy the Republican Party,” Dr. Land added, “what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’

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John McCain Slaps Rush Limbaugh's Face With Florida Win
By Chris Davis
Jan 31, 2008

Miami — In what appears to be a crushing defeat for conservatism, John McCain has clearly slapped Rush Limbaugh's face with his win in the Florida primary. The vitriol, reaching a fevered pitch by the morning of the Florida primary, came crashing down on Limbaugh on Tuesday night.
Limbaugh's hatred for McCain has created anti-John McCain rhetoric, ending in a duel in the Sunshine State. Encumbered with the vicious attacks by Limbaugh, Senator McCain rose on the backs of spineless moderate Republicans, and stomped on conservatism.



what will Rush do if Mcain wins? we all know what he'll do if Hillary or Obama wins.

maybe he would move to the whorehouse he hangs around at in the Dominican Republic and shutup? [Big Grin]

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here's another reason to vote McCain:

HANNITY: Class warfare rhetoric. It's interrogations. It's Guantanamo. It's Anwar. These are not small issues to conservatives.

COULTER: No, and if you're looking at substance rather than whether it's an R or D after his name, manifestly, if our's candidate than Hillary's going to be our girl, Sean, because she's more conservative than he is. I think she would be stronger on the war on terrorism. I absolutely believe that.

HANNITY: That's the one area I disagree with you.

COULTER: No, yes, we're going to sign up together. Let me explain that point on terrorism.

HANNITY: You'd vote for Hillary —

COULTER: I will campaign for her if it's McCain.

HANNITY: If Hillary is watching tonight, you just got an endorsement —


HANNITY: Hillary Clinton, if she gets her way, will nationalize health care. She's going to pull the troops out of Iraq.

COULTER: I don't think she will.

HANNITY: That's what she's saying she's going to do. She says in a hundred days she's immediately going to begin to pull out.

(CROSS TALK)

COULTER: She's running in a Democratic primary. He's running in the Republican primary, and their positions are about that far apart. When George Bush said at the State of the Union Address that the surge is working in Iraq, Obama sat on his hands, Kennedy sat on his hands, Hillary leapt up and applauded that we are winning in the surge and that the surge is working in Iraq.


i wonder what "refreshments" they are serving in the green room over at fox these days? ketamine colas?


COULTER: Hillary is absolutely more conservative.

COLMES: My work is done. My work is done.

COULTER: Moreover, she lies less than John McCain. I'm a Hillary girl now. She lies less than John McCain. She's smarter than John McCain, so that when she's caught shamelessly lying, at least the Clintons know they've been caught lying. McCain is so stupid, he doesn't even know he's been caught.

COLMES: Go. In fact, could you fill in for me next week? Let me get this straight, would you vote for Hillary Clinton?

COULTER: Yes.

COLMES: You would actually go in a voting booth —

COULTER: If it's close and the candidate is John McCain, because John McCain is not only bad for Republicanism, which he definitely is. He is bad for —



must be some new expirement in entertainment...

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McCain seems like a nice person with good knowledge. I think he would make a good president if he wasn' so stuck on the issues of war and a couple of other things.

I just wonder about his health after all those years in the Hanoi Hilton they had to take there toll.


He just worries me in regards to the war. We all know it would be nice to get out of Iraq with something major accomplished for all the lives lost and destroyed.

But i am afraid from what i hear McCain say he wants to stay in Iraq till some sort of goal is reached. I am affraid we may never reach this goal. He also says he will catch Bin Laden. We really don't know if he is still alive and secondly why do we keep mentioning his name and give him more power by building him up and his ability to allude everyone. Bush played this same game not a good one.

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"maybe he would move to the whorehouse he hangs around at in the Dominican Republic and shutup?"

Boy whores or girl whores?

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He also says he will catch Bin Laden. We really don't know if he is still alive and secondly why do we keep mentioning his name

catching bin Laden may ( heck, would most definitely) entail invading Pakistan,

we might have had a chance to work with Musharref before we tried to shove Bhuto back into the country, but now? no way

Musharref has recently said things like we would be considered invaders.


Bush has really screwed up our diplomacy for a long time to come by simply, well, being simple minded.
he's put US into a very precarious position in the mideast.

if i was a suspicious person i might even suspect Bush has been trying to perpetrate bad diplomacy on purpose for some strange reason. (like oil money)

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No,

I am positive he thought he was being clever.

He's a chess player who looked at the board and planned his movements without a thought that his opponent might move differently than he'd expect.

Typical amateur strategist mistake.

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I'm like Bush, I see the world more like checkers than chess.
Dennis Miller

I'm a comedian, for God's sake. Viewers shouldn't trust me. And you know what? They're hip enough to know they shouldn't trust me. I'm just doing stand-up comedy.
Dennis Miller

it's too bad Dubya didn't go into standup for a living too huh?

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There's nothing wrong with being shallow as long as you're insightful about it.
Dennis Miller

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i thought you were eyeballin Paul glass?

mccain scares the bejesus outta me, considering who is foreign policy advisors are.. mostly the same war mongers who lead bush into the current desert field trip.
the one offhand i remember is Randy Scheunemann.

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Randy Scheunemann is the President of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which was created by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), of which he is a board member. He was Trent Lott's National Security Aide and was an advisor to Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Iraq. He was hired by prospective 2008 Presidential candidate John McCain as his foreign-policy aide
same policy, different face.

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As I recall from the GOP debate the other night, McCain said he wished Limburger liked him...

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i thought you were eyeballin Paul glass?

i will vote for him in my primary, but he's not going to get the "nod"


he has been made fun of by the press too much and only people that are not embarrassed to express a willingness not to follow the judas goats openly express their support for him.

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I voted for Paul in our primary...but Glass is right he won't get the nod...it's a damn shame how the Republican candidates, their cronies, and the media have treated him....he would have been good for this country.

The rest of the pack on both sides are nothing more than party line politicians, and it really doesn't matter which one wins...it will be 4 more years of what we have had for the last 30+.

Billary would be the worst though...she is one cold hearted, power hungry, angry woman... and imo she will cause just as much, if not more damage as Dubya.

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I really have a lot of respect for McCain's service and I hate the way Hannity and Limbaugh bash him.

My guess is that they are a couple of cowards when it comes to serving there country. McCain did put his money where his mouth was.

Limbaugh the draft dodger and Hannity the great chicken hawk. Can,t stand some body that fights for there country thats why they love our current president,birds of a feather flock together

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i wonder if McCain will recruit Joe Leiberman for VP? [Big Grin]


i just saw McCain say he would follow osama to the gates of hell to get him.

as much as i want osama dead? i feel that i have to caution that McCain could lead US all to hell trying to get him.

he's in Pakistan. Musharref is the one that needs to get him, and i don't see how McCain is going to convince Musharref to do it, or allow US to do it by the way he's talking right now.


maybe if he hires Joe Biden as Sec State. which brings me to the next question. who is McCain talking about hiring for that job?

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quote:
Originally posted by turbokid:
i thought you were eyeballin Paul glass?

mccain scares the bejesus outta me, considering who is foreign policy advisors are.. mostly the same war mongers who lead bush into the current desert field trip.
the one offhand i remember is Randy Scheunemann.

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Randy Scheunemann is the President of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which was created by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), of which he is a board member. He was Trent Lott's National Security Aide and was an advisor to Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Iraq. He was hired by prospective 2008 Presidential candidate John McCain as his foreign-policy aide
same policy, different face.
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"Maria Shriver endorsed Democrat Barack Obama’s White House bid today at a Los Angeles rally."

"Shriver is married to California’s Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who endorsed GOP presidential hopeful John McCain on Friday."

I thought this was interesting. Guess one will be right in their family unless Hillary sneaks in.

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i just found out that these two are married, what a marriage this must be:

James Carville (born October 25, 1944) is an American political consultant, commentator, media personality and pundit. Known as the Ragin' Cajun, Carville gained national attention for his work as the lead strategist of the successful presidential campaign of then-Arkansas governor Bill Clinton. Carville was the co-host of CNN's Crossfire until its final broadcast in June 2005. Since its cancellation, he has appeared on CNN's new program, The Situation Room. As of 2006, he hosts a weekly program on XM Radio titled 60/20 Sports with Luke Russert, son of NBC's Tim Russert.

and?

Mary Joe Matalin (born August 19, 1953) is an American political strategist and consultant. She is known for her work with the Republican Party. She was an assistant to President George W. Bush and counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney until 2003. In April 2004, she published the book Letters to My Daughters. In March of 2005, Matalin was chosen to run a new conservative publishing imprint at Simon & Schuster.
She is married to James Carville, a political strategist for candidates of the Democratic Party, who together have two young daughters, Matalin "Matty" and Emerson "Emma". Both Matalin and Carville have gone on record saying that they don't talk politics at home. The best example of contention between the two, aside from appearances on talk shows, is the 1992 movie The War Room. In the 1992 political campaign both Matalin and Carville were staffing opposite campaigns. Matalin wrote the best-selling book All's Fair: Love, War and Running for President with Carville and co-author Peter Knobler.


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inbox is full

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fixed.. man i can't keep it cleaned out.

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understood...

lol, cain't believe you didn't know Carville/Matalin story...

anyway, incoming

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heres a list of the advisors Mccain has enlisted, if those names dont ring a bell, THEY SHOULD !!

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Foreign policy, national security

• Henry Kissinger - Former U.S. secretary of State.
• William Kristol - Editor of the Weekly Standard, a Washington-based political magazine.


• Robert Kagan - A senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a columnist on world affairs.


• Randy Scheunemann - Consultant who was defense and foreign-policy coordinator to McCain's 2000 presidential campaign. Like Kagan and Kristol, he also is listed as a director of the Project for the New American Century, a non-profit conservative organization whose self-stated goal is to promote American global leadership.


• Gary Schmitt - Senior fellow at the conservative Project for the New American Century. He is an author and served under President Reagan as executive director of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.


• Stephen Biegun - Ford Motor Co. vice president and former national security adviser to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn. He also served as executive secretary of the National Security Council at the White House from 2001 to 2003.


• Brent Scowcroft - National security advisor under President George H.W. Bush and fellow board member with McCain on the International Republican Institute, a democracy building organization that McCain chairs.


• Colin Powell - Former secretary of State and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.


• Niall Ferguson - A professor of history at Harvard and prolific author.


• Barry McCaffrey - Retired Army general and former White House drug czar under President Bill Clinton.


• Robert Zoellick - Former Deputy Secretary of State and former U.S. trade representative.


• Richard Armitage - Former deputy secretary of State..


• Eliot Cohen - Conservative professor of military affairs at the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.


• Robert Kimmitt - Deputy secretary of the Department of the Treasury; former ambassador to Germany.


• Andrew Krepinevich - Retired Army officer who is now executive director at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments that focuses on defense spending and planning.


• Ralph Peters - Retired Army office and author.


• Charles Larson - A retired Navy admiral, who twice served as superintendent of the U.S. Naval Academy. He ran unsuccessfully as a Democratic candidate for lieutenant government of Maryland in 2002 and now serves on the board of directors of the Northrop Grumman Corp., a defense company.


• Bernard Aronson - Former assistant secretary of State for inter-American affairs.


• Lorne Craner - President of the International Republican Institute. He served as assistant secretary for democracy, human rights, and labor under Secretary of State Colin Powell.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/special3/articles/0811mccain-advisers-ON. html

BTW i also voted for paul on tuesday. even though i knew romney was gonna dominate the mormon homeland..

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Romney quit, story apparently on CNN...

yup, hearing it on TV, now

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This is Romney's "I'm gonna go out with a blast" speech.

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i'm not surprised.

as a business model his campaign is a total failure.

Hillary is out of cash too.

McCain was out of money just recently. but i haven't heard anybody mention his money staus recently.

Huckabee has "bought" the most delegates with the least amount of cash is what i have been hearing.

Barrack is not running a bad business...

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Romney's saying that 60% of government spending is on entitlements.

I'd like to see how he comes to that number.

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Anti-Union in government now too.

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Military action from China is inevitable.

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Romney made most of his mountain of cash by dismantling supposedly "distressed" US businesses, what do you expect.

i believe in proper maintenance and repair not demolition and scrapping.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Bigfoot:
Romney's saying that 60% of government spending is on entitlements.

I'd like to see how he comes to that number.

It's a matter o how he defines "entitlement", Big.


Probably has a lot to do with "I'm entitled" and those guys are deadbeat liberal wacko leftist.

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Obama sweeps, Huckabee hangs tough

NEW: McCain wins Washington state GOP caucus, state party declares

Obama wins Washington, Nebraska, Louisiana

Huckabee takes Louisiana, Kansas

Majority of conservatives voted against McCain in Louisiana, exit polls suggest


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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Many voters in Saturday's Republican contests showed they're not yet ready to support Sen. John McCain as their party's nominee while Sen. Barack Obama cut into Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead in the race for Democratic delegates.


Illinois Sen. Barack Obama swept the Democratic contests on Saturday, according to CNN projections.

1 of 3 Obama claimed victory in Louisiana, Nebraska and Washington on Saturday, as well as in the Virgin Islands.

"The stakes are too high and the challenges are too great to play the same old Washington game with the same old Washington players and expect a different result," Obama told a hugely supportive crowd of Democrats at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner in Richmond, Virginia.

"People want to turn the page. They want to write a new chapter in American history." Watch Obama rally in Virginia »

Clinton has 1,100 delegates and Obama has 1,039, according to CNN calculations.

Obama leads in pledged delegates -- 908 to 877 -- but Clinton's superdelegates -- 223 to 131 -- give her the overall lead.

"If I'm your nominee, you will never have to worry that I will be knocked out of the ring, because I do have strength and experience to lead this country, and I am ready to go toe-to-toe with Sen. McCain whenever and wherever he desires," Clinton said Saturday. Watch Clinton address supporters »

On the Republican side, Mike Huckabee upset front-runner McCain in Saturday's Republican contests. What do the results mean? »

The former Arkansas governor beat McCain in Kansas nearly 3-1.

Huckabee also took Louisiana, narrowly edging out McCain, according to CNN projections.

With both Huckabee and McCain falling short of the 50 percent mark, the 20 delegates will be allocated at next Saturday's Louisiana state GOP convention.

In Washington state, the state Republican Party declared McCain the winner.

Huckabee's Saturday wins show that Republicans are not necessarily falling in line behind McCain, the Republicans' presumptive nominee.

In Louisiana, exit polls showed that a majority of conservatives rejected the Arizona Republican. Only 34 percent of conservatives voted for McCain compared with 50 percent who voted for Huckabee, according to exit polls.

"People across America are gravitating toward our campaign and realizing that there is still a choice. And that's what we've said all along, that this race is far from being over," Huckabee said after the first results came in. Watch what Huckabee says about the results »

Obama and Huckabee have done well in caucus states like Iowa, where grass-roots efforts are more likely to have greater influence.

Obama also picked up a boost in Washington with the endorsement of the state's governor, Christine Gregoire.

Saturday's races marked the first contests without former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who suspended his campaign Thursday.

But Huckabee faces a daunting challenge. McCain has a significant lead in the delegate count after Super Tuesday. Huckabee has 217 delegates to McCain's 714, according to CNN calculations.

Even if Huckabee wins every remaining state with 50 percent of the vote to McCain's 40 percent, McCain would still be the nominee.

"The other scenario... if he kept winning by large margins could he keep John McCain short of the line? That is a more probable scenario, but still an unlikely scenario," said CNN chief national correspondent John King.

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"I know the pundits, and I know what they say: The math doesn't work out," Huckabee said Saturday morning at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington. "Well, I didn't major in math, I majored in miracles. And I still believe in those, too."

A senior McCain adviser said the campaign was not surprised by the results in Kansas.

"There are more caucus states we will probably lose, but our campaign is focusing on a transition from front-runner to nominee," he said.

McCain spent part of Saturday making calls in a bid to shore up conservative support for his campaign, according to CNN's Dana Bash.

Huckabee scored wins in the Southern states of Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and his native Arkansas on Super Tuesday, and social conservatives in Louisiana might mobilize behind him and send a message to McCain.

Huckabee pulled off a win in the Iowa caucuses, the product of a grass-roots movement, and both Kansas and Washington are caucus states.

Huckabee said Saturday that the $250,000 his campaign had raised online in 24 hours was a sign of the health of his presidential effort.

Louisiana, still suffering from Hurricane Katrina, could be a key political state this year -- something not lost on both Democratic campaigns as they drum up last-minute votes. Watch the Democratic candidates campaign »


On the Republican side, Huckabee was in Kansas on Friday. He attended rallies in Olathe, Wichita, Topeka and Garden City.

McCain, meanwhile, held a national security roundtable in Norfolk, Virginia, and later traveled to Wichita, Kansas. Afterward, it was off to Seattle. E-mail to a friend

CNN's Sean Callebs and Alan Silverleib contributed to this report.

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A McCain , Hillary will be interesting.

Both will have an ex-president ( or soon to be Ex.) in their corner.
Both candidates will at some point have to distance themselves from these marvels.

Who ever does the best job of running away will probably win.

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