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USA sucked big greenies and still managed to tie supposed powerhouse Great Britain: ugly futbol/soccer, however you wanna call it.

Germany is playing *very attractive* futbol...they *destroyed* Australia.

Watched Brazil v N Korea...the Brazilians *toyed* with 'em. Sure, the score ended 2-1--but, no. Could just as easily have been 5-1.

The Beautiful Game!

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S. Africa risks looking like an ass due to this:


Police Arrest Two Women Over Ambush Marketing At World Cup
The Guardian, 18 minutes ago

South African police yesterday arrested two women they charged with organizing an ambush-marketing stunt for family-owned Dutch brewer Bavaria at a World Cup match between Holland and Denmark earlier this week. During the match, 36 women dressed in skimpy orange dresses -- the color of the brewery -- were ejected from Soccer City stadium.

Budweiser is the official beer for the tournament and FIFA, world soccer's governing body, fiercely protects its sponsors from brands that are not its partners, Owen Gibson reports. Ambush marketing is a criminal offense in South Africa and the women face three charges, according to a police spokesman: contravention of the Merchandise Mark Act and contravention of two sections of the special measures regulations."


http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=130294

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what kind of fascism is this anyway?


Four years ago at the Germany World Cup scores of Dutch men watched the Netherlands play in a Stuttgart stadium in their underwear after stewards ordered them to remove orange lederhosen bearing the name of Bavaria.

South Africa has particularly strong laws to protect intellectual property and to punish "ambush marketing" where non-affiliated companies try to use the World Cup brand.

None of the women who wore the dresses have been charged but they were questioned by Fifa officials after being ejected from the game.

It is not clear whether Earle will face any legal action for redistributing the tickets.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/7832413/World-Cup-2010- Bavaria-beer-stunt-organisers-arrested.html

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quote:
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what kind of fascism is this anyway?

Capitalist fascism? [Wink]

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Soccer is for $#%&&'s

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I have always loved to watch the kids play.

Saw some great games in a tournament on a 15 yard field down on the beach a few weeks ago, some of the kids were great, with quite a bit of contact.

Not my favorite to coach, probably because i never played it growing up or even saw it played.

My grandson was going to play winter baseball instead of soccer, i convinced my daughter to keep him in soccer even though baseball is my favorite.

He's only 7, needs to play as many sports as he can untill they force him into a couple, except football.

The world cup is great, but usually not enough scoring for me.

I know this is one of Tex's favorites, he spent quite a few years coaching, if i remember correctly, a lot different level than i did.

I'll catch small parts of a few games.


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quote:
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Soccer is for $#%&&'s

what's the matter buck? you got the offseason blues? deer season been over too long and you can't even shoot any doves for another 10 weeks?

i hear tiger woods has at least one *extra* kid running around now....

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Schweet...Argentina just put on a clinic, at S. Korea's expense... dangerous bunch, always focused on the next shot.

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quote:
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Originally posted by buckstalker:
Soccer is for $#%&&'s

what's the matter buck? you got the offseason blues? deer season been over too long and you can't even shoot any doves for another 10 weeks?

i hear tiger woods has at least one *extra* kid running around now....

LOL...I'm just messin with Tex

Although now that you mention it, I would like to shoot something...

I really feel sorry for poor little tiger though...he has had such a difficult life

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ain't that the truth? he's a billionaire cuz he can hit a ball into a hole with stick?

why does that sound like dirty joke now? [Big Grin]

frogs are in season here, now, but there aren't any left anymore...

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Awwww..... they are still around Glass. BP has just "pre-battered'em" for ya!

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we don't have any of the eating kind left here...

my grandad showed me how to shoot em right up onto the bank from a rowboat with a 22....

got plenty of little green tree frogs when it rains a few days, but we ain't gettin' much rain right now neither.... might as well eat hummingbird wings as them tho...

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
[QB] ain't that the truth? he's a billionaire cuz he can hit a ball into a hole with stick?

Yes, glass...he can hit a tiny ball into a hole, 4 inches around, 500 yds away, with a few different "clubs", in fewer strokes , on a consistent basis, than anyone else on the planet....simple game really. [Cool]

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quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
[QB] ain't that the truth? he's a billionaire cuz he can hit a ball into a hole with stick?

Yes, glass...he can hit a tiny ball into a hole, 4 inches around, 500 yds away, with a few different "clubs", in fewer strokes , on a consistent basis, than anyone else on the planet....simple game really. [Cool]

and are you calimng that should make him a billionaire? i've got nothing against games, i play pool all the time, but when a society begins to lay down the kinda money that he makes for trivial pursuits, yes that's right trivial, then soemthin' ain't right...

i'm just as critical of NASCAR and the NCAA in the amount of money they spend, so don't think i'm "picking" on golf or Tiger. I'm saying it's a sign of the times, and times ain't good...

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
[QB] ain't that the truth? he's a billionaire cuz he can hit a ball into a hole with stick?

Yes, glass...he can hit a tiny ball into a hole, 4 inches around, 500 yds away, with a few different "clubs", in fewer strokes , on a consistent basis, than anyone else on the planet....simple game really. [Cool]

and are you calimng that should make him a billionaire? i've got nothing against games, i play pool all the time, but when a society begins to lay down the kinda money that he makes for trivial pursuits, yes that's right trivial, then soemthin' ain't right...

i'm just as critical of NASCAR and the NCAA in the amount of money they spend, so don't think i'm "picking" on golf or Tiger. I'm saying it's a sign of the times, and times ain't good...

So..you are saying that if the "public" thought you were a master of glassblowing, and paid millions for your pieces, thus elevating you to the status of billionaire, you would decline the money? C'mon glass....I'm calling BS on that one.

Like CCM would say...you sound like a Democrat! [Were Down]

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So..you are saying that if the "public" thought you were a master of glassblowing, and paid millions for your pieces, thus elevating you to the status of billionaire, you would decline the money? C'mon glass....I'm calling BS on that one.

uh, there's a few people that have become millionaires blowing glass.

at the end of the day we deliver a product that you can hold. that's what we get paid for. Pardon me for being a materialist...

i beleive i've made the same commets about musicians too, i don't thin much is accomplished making Ozzie Osbourne a millionaire either. Or Btritney trailer trash Spears either...

i was living in Lincoln NE when they spent 50 million$ on a new gym for the football team complete with viewing area so big donors could watch the team workout.

the same year they finished that project they had to cut budgets and tenured professors were let go..

they also fired the coach for not winning the BCS...

it's just crazy chit IMO opinion and not bull at all.

i don't think Dale Earnhardt Jr is worth 30 million$ per year. he is at best competent driver, and i don't recall him ever finishing the season in the top five, yet he's paid the most in NASCAR,

as to sounding like a Democrat? I think we face some pretty serious issue sin our country, i think we are going to third world status very fast, and it is our value system that is at fault.

that value system place services in the same financial categories as Product, and it is wrong minded. I've stated the same opinion here for years. i don't think much of calling Casinoes legit business either, but people do...

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quote:
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So..you are saying that if the "public" thought you were a master of glassblowing, and paid millions for your pieces, thus elevating you to the status of billionaire, you would decline the money? C'mon glass....I'm calling BS on that one.

uh, there's a few people that have become millionaires blowing glass.

at the end of the day we deliver a product that you can hold. that's what we get paid for. Pardon me for being a materialist...

i beleive i've made the same commets about musicians too, i don't thin much is accomplished making Ozzie Osbourne a millionaire either. Or Btritney trailer trash Spears either...

i was living in Lincoln NE when they spent 50 million$ on a new gym for the football team complete with viewing area so big donors could watch the team workout.

the same year they finished that project they had to cut budgets and tenured professors were let go..

they also fired the coach for not winning the BCS...

it's just crazy chit IMO opinion and not bull at all.

i don't think Dale Earnhardt Jr is worth 30 million$ per year. he is at best competent driver, and i don't recall him ever finishing in the top five, yet he's paid the most in NASCAR,

as to sounding like a Democrat? I think we face some pretty serious issue sin our country, i think we are going to third world status very fast, and it is our value system that is at fault.

that value system place services in the same financial categories as Product, and it is wrong minded. I've stated the same opinion here for years. i don't think much of calling Casinoes legit business either, but people do...

Nice avoidance...but your not getting away with it this time glass. You post about your indignation of these "people" making millions/billions. Answer the question...."IF" you were paid millions per peice.....and that elevated you to the level of billionaire some day....would you still be so trite? It's just a question Glass.

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Nice avoidance...but your not getting away with it this time glass. You post about your indignation of these "people" making millions/billions. Answer the question...."IF" you were paid millions per peice.....and that elevated you to the level of billionaire some day....would you still be so trite? It's just a question Glass. [/QB]

i wasn't trying to avoid anything.
sorry i wasn't clear enough, if people paid me billions to blow glass i would think they are stupid and deserved to lose their (obviously not) hard earned money.. is that straight forward enough? I have little doubt that Tiger often wonders WTF, IF he wonders at all...

if some guy spends 300 million$ to make a movie like Avatar? I think i'm lucky to buy it for 25$ and own it. i did.... it's sortof a product, but at the end of the day? we have a heckofalot of millionaires who basically generated a bunch of statistics, like batting 400....


i ama looking at this from the point of view that our country is in a spending deficit, and has been for a couple decades now because we do not value hard work anymore, we don't produce as much as we consume, and the end is in plain sight to some of US.

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Mexico held on and capitalized on two defensive mistakes, whupping France 2-0. France now has to a)win and b) hope Mexico and Uruguay *don't* tie.

Guy named Hernandez scored the first goal--his grandfather scored against France in the 1954 World Cup.

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I saw that the games had some of the best U.S. TV ratings since the tournament was held in Chicago 16 years ago.

They said the first round match between the U.S. and England was the most watched match in the U.S. in the history of the world cup, up 75% over the 2006 world cup games.


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Sounds right to me.

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US v Slovenia, manana, 8:30a Central time...

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quote:
Originally posted by buckstalker:
Soccer is for $#%&&'s

actually soccer takes a lot of skill. unlike fat football players, the soccer player runs miles and miles per game...constantly in motion. There is no huddle to rest and get some air.

how many soccer players do you see with a fat gut and grunt?

Some football players are so fat their rolls come out their jerseys! i guess thats cool...to some people! I love American football dont get me wrong, but soccer players are fit.

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this game is pretty good example of why people in teh US don't watch much soccer. the US team is being owned

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Donovan just put on a clinic huh?

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seems like the USA has suddenly started passing much better in the last few minutes huh?

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hmmmm..... i think the refs are FOS.

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Ya, that set-piece goal was fine--where's the foul?

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Nope, no foul. Looks like we're paying for foreign policy.

Although, I couldn't watch it all; hard to watch when we play so poorly. Had chances to beat both teams, but just don't have the "next-level" skills or polish.

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robbed... i guess there's no recourse on that? there was actually two fouls on Slovenia for holding players, but they called it back with no explanation?

the US did look better on the second half, but the first half they hardly made any good passes to each other... gotta play 90 minutes.

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Nope, recourse, except to beat Algeria, refs, everybody--and hope for no tie between GB & Slovenia...

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
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Originally posted by jordanreed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
[QB] ain't that the truth? he's a billionaire cuz he can hit a ball into a hole with stick?

Yes, glass...he can hit a tiny ball into a hole, 4 inches around, 500 yds away, with a few different "clubs", in fewer strokes , on a consistent basis, than anyone else on the planet....simple game really. [Cool]

and are you calimng that should make him a billionaire? i've got nothing against games, i play pool all the time, but when a society begins to lay down the kinda money that he makes for trivial pursuits, yes that's right trivial, then soemthin' ain't right...

i'm just as critical of NASCAR and the NCAA in the amount of money they spend, so don't think i'm "picking" on golf or Tiger. I'm saying it's a sign of the times, and times ain't good...

That is my point exactly Glass...

Woods grew up "out of touch" with the real world and is now paid enormous amounts of money to play a friggin game!!! The sickest part of it all, is the number of people in this country that actually put him on a pedestal, worship him, and actually pay him...

and this is not just about tigger friggen woods...

I have never understood why people would worship musicians, movie stars, or sports figures...

and what I find the most puzzling, is why people would pay so much of their money to watch these people sing a song, or pretend to be someone they are not, or play a game...

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the humming/buzzing from those horns is pretty unpleasant,
the sound of a beehive or wasp nest is danger, might as well have a siren going off non-stop...
i dunno what people doing that are thinking, if i was there i'd prolly leave, i understand they are trying to electronically remove it from the braodcast, so what we are hearing is not even as loud as it is there...

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I have never understood why people would worship musicians, movie stars, or sports figures...

What I find the most puzzling is why people would pay so much of their money to watch these people sing a song, or pretend to be someone they are not, or play a game...


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cult of personality...

to be honest, when i do festivals and sell my work? i do not do very well because i focus on the work and the techniques in my "sales pitch".

i'm doing it all wrong as far as sales go, i know that, but i'm being honest, it ain't about me or how "cool" i am or ain't- the work i do should speak for itself IMO, and i want people that like it to buy it because they like it, not cuz i am the one that made it....

there's an even better example in the art world, and i am not bringinning this up cuz i'm angry, i chose glass, and it chose me, but painters? they buy a 30$ canvas and 100$ worth of brushes and a another hundred of paint and splash the stuff on and get 1000's.... i had to buy 100,000$ worth of tools just to make my 100$ peices... i get burned, sweat and bleed, and i love what i do, i ain't switching to paint just cuz it's more profitable. Even famous painters have admitted that it's a huge "scam"...

go figger that? i'm not complaining i'm just observing the absurdities in the world...

i've even lost to painted gourds in art contests, i recently got first in my class at serious juried festival and the person that got best in show painted this:

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it's rough paper and ink...

now i know better than to be mad, i got a good award, but i just don't understand how this is worth $2000 plus a $1500 prize...

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Well, I didn't expect that--GB tied Algeria zip-zip. So Slovenia leads with 4, we're tied with England at 2-2, and Algeria is not yet eliminated, even though they have only 1 point.

Basically, we win and we're in.

But we'll have to play better than we have so far.

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