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I would say that the odds are about 10,000 to 1 that he is innocent...about the same odds as most of the politicians in this country as being "innocent" of wrongdoing and/or corruption...
Of course he's not likely to be innocent, but it isn't because all politicians are crooked. That BS that the rightwing puts out to try and shift the guilt is insulting.
Face facts.
At present, the vast majority of crooked politicians in the U.S. are republican rightwingers ....... the same hypocrites that got into office by falsly claiming they were there to stop corruption in office.
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i disagree bdgee.. the Dems are no "cleaner" than the GOP...
the best we can hope for is that the two parties turn over each others rocks enough to keep the worst offenders from doing the worst they can do, or catch them when they do it...
obama is correct about one thing..Hillary is just Bush Light...
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I'm sorry glass..., but you are letting your republican heritage and upbringing over run your good sense.
We have a serious problem that MUST be faced now.
The incumbent party that has used the power of the our Government to attempt to force the public to accept "republicans" (actually those that have stolen the name) as a permanent and government sponsored constant by rigging elections and politicizing government service and employment to an extent never seen before, but even to an extreme never before imagined possible.
The disease needs to be treated.....now and specifically. Passing it off with "everybody does it" won't purge the vermin destroying the system.
The worst offenders are almost all republicans and every rock overturned is dislodging more and more of them.
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I'll tell you very specifically and exactly.
The Senate cannot act with less than 60% majority and the democrats don't have that. It's time to point the finger at the party that is preventing oversight, not claiming that the democrats don't try or don't want to. The republicans and their lap dog Joe Lieberman are the wielders of that power and blaming failure to overcome Party line voting by republicans on the democrats is dishonest.
I knew long before Bush was ever even Governor of Texas that he was a crook that surrounded himself with crooked yes men. The information to establish that was out there and known so that even republicans could see the truth. Instead, republicans not only bought the lies, republican propaganda was that anyone not buying into the lies was unpatriotic and un-American.
Again I apologize to all real and true republicans for the unintentional inclusion of them under the name "republican" that has been adopted by this bunch of fascist scum. (That apology does not extend to those republicans that recognize the disgusting depths of fascism to which their party name has been drug and still advocate Party loyalty over honest patriotism or smearing democrats out of habit to excuse the crimes of this bunch. There is NOTHING that is not vulgar about this bunch and there is nothing forgiving about anything that supports them in any way!)
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No, the senate isn't where impeachment proceedings start, but starting proceedings that are guaranteed to only end at a Party line blockade by republicans isn't going to do anything but create propaganda for the obstructionist Party, so they can protect their incumbents that have participated in the crimes.
What issue would you have the democrats force? What you seem to call for is a guaranteed perfect propaganda campaign for the republicans is all.
The republicans are still protecting this criminal Administration. It's time they protected the Country rather than the Party.
The republicans are making excuses for the anti-American fascist crimes of this administration in locked goose step Party before Country loyalty and they are doing it knowing exactly what it is they are supporting.
That's NOT the two party system and, as it is being practiced by the republicans now, it ain't only not perfect, it ain't the best on the Planet. It is Party first dictatorial Government control for the sake of the Party and the Party's corporate financial sponsors. It is fascism.
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that are guaranteed to only end at a Party line blockade by republicans isn't going to do anything but create propaganda for the obstructionist Party,
so? that is a primae facie case for what i'm saying...
the dems are afraid to "do the right thing" and let the chips fall where they may...
the facts are there, all they have to do is bring the charges clearly and present them to the american people... how do you think the immigration law got "busted"? the people spoke up... they will again if the charges are clear..
all of our drug laws are based on international treaties... it's the law of th eland.. Bush broke treaties... the constitution is "just a peice of paper" according to Bush... the dems are confirming that right now....
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I'd bet that 90% + of the advisers that Reno depended on for information about the Waco mess were republicans.
I was stupid of her not to realize that at the time, but the facts are that the Federal criminal agencies are a nest of republicans, bent first on forcing control of the people rather than serving the people.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: then please explain to me why the congress is not already entertainng impeachment proceedings...
lemme tell you how "difficult" watching these bozo's has been for me.. (as GOP)
i knew the day Bush told Sadam to leave Iraq that Bush was a criminal.. he had no right to do that (other than the biggest gun)....
as a matter of fact? under several signed Treaties? he broke US law... nobody is doing chit about it...
the Dems are just looking for the political advantage now.... they are raising money off of it instead of "doing the right thing"...
Yet the GOP tried to impeach Bubba for getting his dick sucked lol But not Bush for all the criminal acts he and his cronies has done...
As for him breaking laws... he did break international law when he attacked Iraq... UN laws to be exact. You should really watch the Pinky video damnit!!! lol :
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I have watched that video. It is quite good. I don't agree with all of its points, but they nailed the overall situation up on the wall for anyone that is willing to look.
"It is time for all good men to come to the aid of their country" and that means even republicans need to stop trying to spread the blame to others in order to provide a smoke screen for these fascist crooks.
I'm not nearly so worried about encroachment of the Nation by "illegal" aliens as I am the encroachment of the ideals of America from within by Party first loyalist willing to vote for the party above the Nation and the destruction of the Constitution.
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We have seen what it is to be run by republicans and there swag mouths,that utter all there one linners. Here are some I will deal with corruption,we know how they deal with it. They talk about work but the republicans worked an average of 2 days a week in the congress and senate.
The treasonist act of outing Plame.
The most disgusting acts of sex prevertion on record. To say the least they can't even manage the Page program.
All and all I could go on for hours they are mostly facistist,sex preverts,gold bricks,criminals and traitors. They are the most anti Americans that live in our country and they are still loved by at least 25% of the nation. And are at the highest levels of our country.
Sick,sick,sick.
There intent is to destroy freedom and give the office of the president the power of a monarch and destroy oru civil liberties.
Anybody with a brain in there head should not believe the mouth grabage of our president and his lapp dogs about protecting us they had there chance when they were young most of them took the cowards route and hid or had people of influence to help them avoid there there duty. Some like our president went awol and never went back to there unit in a time of undeclared war. Should have been called what it looked like on the surface.
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quote:Originally posted by rimasco: LOL....he said Reno had to Man-up!
LOL, you like that? it's true.
i just found out Princess Chelsea works at a hedge fund...
In 2003, Clinton joined the consulting firm McKinsey & Company in New York City, reportedly earning a low six-figure salary; she was the youngest person hired in her class, hired alongside those holding MBAs.[11][10]
In the fall of 2006, she left Mc Kinsey and went to work for Avenue Capital, a hedge fund run by Marc Lasry, a loyal donor to Democratic causes generally, and heavy supporter of the Clintons.[10]
She is currently dating Marc Mezvinsky, a Goldman Sachs employee and the son of disgraced former Congressman Edward Mezvinsky and Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, also a former member of Congress.[10]
lessee how the math works here: she was born in '80 so she isn't going to be old enough to run for prez until '15.... wow... that means she can be appointed by her Mom when she's done with her two terms in '16... unless the Bush's have somebody they want to rotate in first
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and quite frankly? i think the dems threw Kerry under the bus last election so Hillary would have her shot at it...
however?
Kerry himself blew it too... the Dems definitely didn't do enough to make sure their voters got a fair chance to vote in Ohio... Ohio was the worst but it happened in several other states as well...
Rupert Murdoch's Fox "News" may be GOPTV, but Rupert has been funding some more liberal candidates recently...
Rupert's buy into Dow Jones will be interesting... Bloomberg vs Murdoch could be get bloody...
unless Bloomberg runs for Prez. then Murdoch might back him? that way Bloomberg would be non-competitor? i don't think he would be able to keep his interests in his empire if he's elected?
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That's a bit on the "conspiracy theory" tradition, glass.....
What doesn't make sense, is floated in a sea of speculation where it isn't possible to dispute it rationally and, it being of no substance, is therefore too light to sink.
Yep, there was definitely polling fraud in Ohio. And there was definitely a federal judicial branch out to protect and cover for it too.
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Why would the dems throw Kerry under the bus?
why go through all that trouble to have her run eight years later.
Just look at what this bozo has done in seven years. I hope what you say glass is not true because what has happened to the American people has been terrible the last seven years
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quote:Originally posted by bond006: Why would the dems throw Kerry under the bus?
why go through all that trouble to have her run eight years later.
Just look at what this bozo has done in seven years. I hope what you say glass is not true because what has happened to the American people has been terrible the last seven years
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check this stuff out: n 2003, Clinton joined the consulting firm McKinsey & Company in New York City, reportedly earning a low six-figure salary; she was the youngest person hired in her class, hired alongside those holding MBAs.[11][10]
In the fall of 2006, she left Mc Kinsey and went to work for Avenue Capital, a hedge fund run by Marc Lasry, a loyal donor to Democratic causes generally, and heavy supporter of the Clintons.[10]
Marc Lasry is one of the pioneers of the distressed securities market, which has been the exclusive focus of his professional career.[1] Marc Lasry is the Founder and Managing Partner of Avenue Capital Group; a fund focusing on special situations with assets totaling over $12 billion.[2]
He is also the Founder and Senior Managing Director of Amroc, one of the largest broker/dealers of distressed securities. Prior to operating Amroc as an independent entity, Marc and Amroc were affiliated with Acadia Partners L.P., an investment partnership whose general partners include Keystone, Inc. (an investment partnership firm that was affiliated with the Robert M. Bass Group), American Express Company, and the Equitable Life Assurance Society of America. Marc previously was Co-Director of the Bankruptcy and Corporate Reorganization Department at Cowen & Company. Prior to that time, he served as Director of the Private Debt Department at Smith Vasiliou Management Company.
Previously, Marc specialized in bankruptcy law at the New York law firm of Angel & Frankel.
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