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I would like to believe it will have some effect on the desire of so many prosecutors to count convictions and, therefore, practice law against the poor.
Had what Nifong did to these three young men been done to someone without the funds to hire powerful and serious defense attorneys, that poor snook would rot to hell in prison.
I don't wish damage done to Nifong, but I hope those defense attorneys do, as they claim they will, try to force criminal charges against Nifong nad have him serve time. Maybe that will defer some eager "law and order" loudmouth elected politico from putting more innocent people away in prison (or dead from the death penalty) who cannot afford an adequate defense of his attack (what generally passes for defense for those people in our courts often amounts to some guy that doesn't bother to stay sober at night and doesn't sleep, then tries to make up for it by sleeping through the trial).
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Sad part is...That was the first time in N.C. history that this happened. How many people get put in the slammer for something they didn't even do?
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What exactly did he do? I didn't keep up with the story when it happened... but not for nothing... just because the charges were dropped on those three or someone doesn't get convicted does not mean they didn't do it... sometimes prosecutors botch the case... OJ anyone? Robert Blake? (well with Robert I think he covered his tracks well & deserved his acquittal... i predicted he would get acquitted before it occurred based on hearing the evidence), William Kennedy? etc... so for every supposed innocent suspect.... how many guilty ones have beat their cases? ... a question no one seems to ask because they are only thinking of supposed innocence in this case of the Duke 3.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Sad part is...That was the first time in N.C. history that this happened. How many people get put in the slammer for something they didn't even do?
well Mach? there was this case while i was living in SE VA called the "Little Rascals Day Care Case"
the prosecutors went crazy and actually got something like a dozen life sentences for one guy and some severe ones for several others too.. a few months later? a panel of judges stepped in and overturned it all... it was like the Salem witch trials of the 1990's....
there were even people caliming they saw video proving the abuse on TV to me... and i had followed the case almost from the beginning. i knew there was not one single peice of physical evidence!!!!
New York Times; April 23, 1992; Day-Care Owner Is Convicted of Child Molesting. The longest and costliest criminal trial ever held in North Carolina ended today when the owner of a day-care center was convicted on 99 of 100 charges of sexually abusing 12 children there. After 14 days of deliberating, a Pitt County Superior Court jury found the 44-year-old defendant, Robert F. Kelly Jr., guilty of 4 counts of rape, 46 of taking indecent liberties, 36 of first-degree sexual offense and 13 crimes against nature. He was acquitted only of a single charge of taking indecent liberties with one of the 12 children.
the fact is that the case was MANUFACTURED. 100%
Quotation: "In the Little Rascals day-care-abuse case in North Carolina, one mother told reporters that it took 10 months before her child was able to "reveal" the molestation. No one at the time considered the idea that the child might have been remarkably courageous to persist in telling the truth for so long." Carol Tavris 1
Summary: In excess of 90 children accused a total of 20 adults with 429 instances of child sexual abuse in a day care center in Edenton NC. Among the alleged perpetrators were the sheriff and mayor. Allegations included a baby killed with a hand gun, a child being hung upside down from a tree and being set on fire. Nobody in town noticed a baby missing. Needless to say, charges were never laid against the mayor or sheriff.
Robin Byrum, Darlene Harris, Elizabeth "Betsy" Kelly, Robert "Bob" Kelly, Scott Willard Privott, Shelly Stone, and Dawn Wilson were charged with engaging in various sexual activities with children in the Kellys' day care in 1989. Bob Kelly and Dawn Wilson were found guilty of multiple charges of child sex abuse and given long sentences. Betsy Kelly and Willard Privott pleaded "no contest" and were released. The charges against the other three were dropped. Convictions were overturned on appeal and new trials ordered. The cases were finally settled in 1999 when all charges were dropped against Kelley.
During the winter of 1988-1989, Edenton police attended a Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) seminar. The first allegation of abuse followed shortly afterwards. One theory is that the first mention of abuse followed the accidental hitting of a child at the day care; another story has the first allegation following intensive questioning of a child by his mother under the guidance of a SRA course attendee.
As in other MVMO cases, the children initially denied abuse at the school. However, after repeated interrogations, they started to reveal sexual and then ritual abuse. Children were criticized or rewarded in accordance with the abuse content of their stories. http://www.religioustolerance.org/ra_edent.htm
there are in fact alotof cases like this that were less well publicised, and all around the mid-to-late 80's thru the early 90's
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Yeah I'm aware of the satanic child abuse cases that caused mass hysteria... they actually started in the 80's with the Martin or McMartin case (one of those names)... among others... I read a interesting book on the history of Satanism called Satan Wants You... and it shows how the media and law enforcement can cause mass hysteria and then all of a sudden everyone has these repressed memories of satanic rituals and abuse at day care centers... and it turning out to be nothing and alot of innocent people getting convicted... but on the flipside there are guilty people who beat cases... and double jeopardy sets in of course...
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career/habitual criminals will keep running afoul of the law, whether they beat a few or even many raps--they're under increasing scrutiny. But some poor sap who's innocent and gets sent up for 20 or 30 years is phocked. Can keep going after the bad guys--can't give the wrongly convicted persons their years back.
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: career/habitual criminals will keep running afoul of the law, whether they beat a few or even many raps--they're under increasing scrutiny. But some poor sap who's innocent and gets sent up for 20 or 30 years is phocked. Can keep going after the bad guys--can't give the wrongly convicted persons their years back.
Another flip side... suing the Gov't in civil court... but I couldn't imagine being in prison one day much less 20 or 30 years...
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Those lacrosse team members have been fu-ked for life, because there always will be those that will say they wouldn't have been charged if they were guilty.
Put the same accusations from some "dancer" at a party for an intramural softball team at a community college in a town about to have an election for the DA and the gun is loaded there too. If the "accused" team members are not filthy rich, so as to be able to hire a bank of high priced lawyers to fight the accusations, they will go to prison, sure as ice melts on a summer sidewalk in Atlanta.
Justice may be blind but it smells money and banks on greed.
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It would seem so, but in most cases, the bad cop as well as the bad lawyer is protected by the profession covering for him.
Cops take care of cops and lawyers take car of lawyers. In either case, they take protecting "the brotherhood" of their profession over the law and the Country and the culture. Either acts in defiance of the law and is evil, and as such, each is absolutely wrong and anti-American.
So, a bad lawyer is not worse than a bad cop. Both are purely, completely, absolutely, repugnant.
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