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I actually drank with this man in an Airport bar in LA waitng for a flight to Honolulu, back in the late Seventies..Or at least the Fellow drunk traveler said he was Cunningham.lol
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it's not the GOP dusty... it's all of them...
he just did what the rest do with the same gusto that he has done everything else, and it couldn't go unignored, just like everything else he has done...
wait till we see all the details of the stuff that's been going on with the contractors like HAL... it will be even more depressing....
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Yep, this one hurts. Damn man, the dude was in one of the alltime greatest dog fights in Jets, he and his co-pilot shot down 2 migs in one engagement..
Wound up having his F-4 Phantom shot down, Commander Cunningham and his Co-Pilot were in one hell of a combat life or death battle for survival in that Dog Fight. He saved the lives of another crew by engaging the Migs.
Not sure, but does he hold the *Big Medal*.
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Immagration if you ever lived in Arizonia it the best example of to little to late. And it all seems like a bunch of lip to me anyway
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I am a really big fan and supporter of our home grown Mezgins. Marvelous generous people with wonderful ways that they are willing to share with us. They are part of "us" and proud to be so.
If ya go down to San Antonio and into the Alamo and read the list of the "Texans" that died defending the place back in 1835, you'll discover that in spite of the movies and tv and all, some of our dead hero brotheren had Spanish sir-names. A lot of Texas' counties and cities carry those names.
But when someone wants me to celebrate Mexican independence from Spain or insist their holidays or language or culture is mine, I remember that I had ancesters murdered at Goliad and, later, others that didn't draw a white bean. A Mexico independent from Spain did that.
This ISN'T Mexico and I don't forget. Mexico invaded us more than once trying to install their ways by force and they lost!
Mexicans are welcome to come for a visit anytime, as far as I'm concerned, so long as it's just a visit and I'm not expected to do things the way Mexico does. Otherwise, I don't need them now any more than they were needed in 1835.
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Ya know, I don't think President Bush's statement that we won't do the work, so give it to illegal's if their registered might be legal, and if not illegal , certinaly a slap in the face to regular hard working Americans.
It's all about wages.. So is he advacating under cutting wages to illegal but registered workers? Is that a Bushizm or what.?
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Damn, hey glassman, this whole administration is coming apart at the seams. I know you have been calling it right down the line, but damn, when is this bleeding going to stop?
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Makes too much sense to be a Bushism, Dust....
And I gotta agree with Glass... "it's not the GOP dusty... it's all of them...". It happens all the time and reaches levels of the stratosphere when the branches of government fall under control of a single party. Party line bullsh--t, operating in the absence of any possible check, always goes to extreme and results in things worse than misbehavior.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: I am a really big fan and supporter of our home grown Mezgins. Marvelous generous people with wonderful ways that they are willing to share with us. They are part of "us" and proud to be so.
If ya go down to San Antonio and into the Alamo and read the list of the "Texans" that died defending the place back in 1835, you'll discover that in spite of the movies and tv and all, some of our dead hero brotheren had Spanish sir-names. A lot of Texas' counties and cities carry those names.
But when someone wants me to celebrate Mexican independence from Spain or insist their holidays or language or culture is mine, I remember that I had ancesters murdered at Goliad and, later, others that didn't draw a white bean. A Mexico independent from Spain did that.
This ISN'T Mexico and I don't forget. Mexico invaded us more than once trying to install their ways by force and they lost!
Mexicans are welcome to come for a visit anytime, as far as I'm concerned, so long as it's just a visit and I'm not expected to do things the way Mexico does. Otherwise, I don't need them now any more than they were needed in 1835.
the beans?
German influence, as I recall...
McMurtry spun a nice novel offa the real history (for one? Bigfoot Wallace did *not* die on that march)
Cultures?
like the dictionary...culture ("culcha") is ___always___ changing--the next influence is already blowing in the wind, my friend.
I think what some of us what would like? is simply a little respect, for what our culture *did* and achieved...
I like a lot of McMurtry's stuff, some is brilliant, but I don't appreciate his habit of abusing facts.
His Leaving Cheyenne and The Last Picture Show occupy the same shelf as Faulkner's trilogy, Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls, and Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago in my library.
I threw Anything for Billie in the trash rather than give it away and subject someone else to that drivel.
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Lonesome Dove is good as it gets for my families' retelling, despite the "factual" irregularities": after all, "family history," which domesticates children is *full* of irregularieties, too...
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Texas is one of the special places that stands out in my memory. I've flown, driven, even hitch hicked across Texas several times.
Worked in the Off Shore Oil industry, even worked on shrimp boats outa Aransas Pass.
Partyed hard, and even did a little Jail time because of a little dust up. Charges were dropped.
But one of my memories that stands out, is the solitude in the Western and South Western areas.
I took Hwy 10 on my Motorcycle one time. Somewhere South of El Paso I started getting a craven for a 6pk of Ice Cold Coors.
It was HOT! but I could'nt find any place to buy a beer, as in, sit down in a Tavern.
Finaly found a very rural store with Beer and Gas. Was sitting in the shade of a tree enjoying my 6pk when a cop started checking me out.
I was riding my chopped, with extended front forks, Hard Tail 750 Honda. Bout' the only M/C that could out run me at that time was a Norton.
Anywho with several road days on me I prolly looked a bit roady...
The Cop started in on the drill, and I was being reasonable. Then a Texas Ranger showed up, and things started getting a bit testy, when all of the sudden this other Cop shows up and asks me if I was Italian, I said, nope, don't think so, why what's it to ya. One of the Cops asked me how long it had been since the last time I had been in the area. Being the smart azz I generaly was in those days, I said, not sure, but I might of been over this popcorn stand in a Jet once.
The first Cop must of thought I was pilot from a military base or sumpin cause one of um said, " Nay it's not him, and they all spit the scene.
Meanwhile, the guy from the store is watching all this and comes over and asks me if I want a cold one indoors...
Wound up having dinner with his family and freinds, spent the night crashing in a lean to in the guys yard...
Finest Mexican folks I ever met!
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Any body that thinks they won't get over or through a wall pretty much at will is a mite short in the sense department.
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Yes I have to agree with you enforcing employment laws is the primary, easiest, way and least expensive way to handle 80% of the problem. But there are other reasons to we must do something. And I can say this without a doubt just all the illegals driving without insurance I have had neighbors that were victums financially of that crime. Criminals that come here from south of the border and you may not think this is a big problem but Mexico is poorer today than it was a year ago and there is nothing left to steal from most of the Mexican people so its walk across the border and look for better pickins like the elderly.
Then of course there is another way to stop this , The Mexican government should make it possible for people to make a living in there country, because the private secector has failed to do so for the last 50 years and if they did not have the United States for a saftey valve the country down there would have exploded a long time ago.
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It isn't just the government in Mexico. They live in a culture that is thoroughly entertwined with the financies of the country and that was designed to please the Catholic Church, when the Catholic church still taught that enslaving native populations was a right of Spain handed down by God. It is a sytem that on the one hand decries slavery aloud and even has a prohibition of slavery in the country's constitution; yet, recognises and demands a class system that effectively traps by birth the common people into a slavery that isn't admitted. It's only a matter of definition that the poor in Mexico fail to meet the requirements to be called slaves. It's one of many examples of what comes of a people that allow religion to intercede into the law and the government.
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bdgee that is a major problem also we all have lived with the sins of imperiealism to some degree in Mexico there is no doubt it, it has had a major more profound effect.
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do very much agree with you on the wall it is not going to keep people out. When social conditions as such as they are in Mexico. They already risk there lives with the crossing of the desert. 99% of these people are kind,good and hard working if given a chance. I would like to see them recieve the same wages and benifits as all Americans> That in itself would end a lot of problems here if there was no profit motivation to hire them and they would not be exploited like they are and the compition was equal.
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