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Fema people are worn out and running out of resources..This last twister may be one of the worst on record. 3/4 mile wide by 25 miles long.
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same democommie mantra... only government can save you... forget that these people had insurance....if they didn't then oh well.... should have known better... been better prepared..
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I'm getting tired of all this call for government to bail people out of every natural disaster. That's why we have insurance....Show me in the constitution or bill of rights where it says government has to rebuild or pay for my home if and when it is destroyed by nature?
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Show me in the constitution or bill of rights where it says government has to occupy Iraq?
quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: I'm getting tired of all this call for government to bail people out of every natural disaster. That's why we have insurance....Show me in the constitution or bill of rights where it says government has to rebuild or pay for my home if and when it is destroyed by nature?
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Government can't be allowed to save us, but it can spend BILLIONS to save the people in other countries? Show me in the constitution where we must wage war on other countries in order to save them with democracy.
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quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: I'm getting tired of all this call for government to bail people out of every natural disaster. That's why we have insurance....Show me in the constitution or bill of rights where it says government has to rebuild or pay for my home if and when it is destroyed by nature?
------------------------------------------------- Again, WTF are you talking about..As Americans we all pitch in to help out our neighbors in times of tradgedy...
Would you stand by and let children burn to death, in a home, because the insurance company wasn't there to do it for you..Geeezzz
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Let me see now....."insure domestic Tranquility"........"promote the general welfare"..."secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"....I seem to recall those wordings....if I could just remember where from....
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There is no "domestic tranquility" or "general welfare" if we neglect large (or even small) portions of the people because they never had the chance to be financially secure or some tragedy has negated what security they had....and what meaning is there to "the Blessings of Liberty" if liberty is denied by poverty or circomstance so that people have no "domestic tranquility" and cannot participate in the "general welfare".
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Dusty... I have no problem helping people in need... I'm in the middle of Katrina land... I've helped my fair shar as of late... I do have a problem with demanding that government do it though. I'm sorry I didn't mean to attack you... I just know where this is all going to lead...
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Providing for people when they are not able to manage on their own is, after all, the fundamental reason for the existance of government. Any other purpose claimed for the existaance of government is specious argument.
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I don't think we should go overboard, but in this age of so-called enlightenment it really is our duty as truely a compassionate nation to care for others who by circumstance, absolutly need help..
I should feel blessed at times to live in a country that is so determined [ for what ever they're agenda ] to help people in need.
Kinda seperates the chaf from the wheat, if ya know what I mean..
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: I don't think we should go overboard, but in this age of so-called enlightenment it really is our duty as truely a compassionate nation to care for others who by circumstance, absolutly need help..
I should feel blessed at times to live in a country that is so determined [ for what ever they're agenda ] to help people in need.
Kinda seperates the chaf from the wheat, if ya know what I mean..
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I don't feel just blessed, I feel pride down deep in my gut. There are other things done or not done though, that bring on shame.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Providing for people when they are not able to manage on their own is, after all, the fundamental reason for the existance of government. Any other purpose claimed for the existaance of government is specious argument.
Absolutely one hundred percent wrong. Government... federal government that is... is in place to protect us from foriegn threats. Social security.. welfare benefits federally funded schools and the rest are the dreams of the commie left. Giving the government the power to hand out money to the poor or unfortunate only breeds dependency... Proven Fact.
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I'd like to suggest we consider hurricanes and tornadoes to be foreign threats. Helping victims pick up the pieces after one of these catastrophies is called a hand up, not a handout. I find it hard to believe that anyone would find it to be in the American economies best interest to let the people who work week in and week out for a paycheck to go homeless when their home is destroyed by mother nature. We saw a lot of people on TV who were affected by Katrina who may be on welfare, many of whom maybe shouldn't be, but most of the people affected are hardworking folks, many of whose insurance apparently doesn't cover floods caused by hurricanes.
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Leo.... wrong. Arguing that government should step in and help because alot of people didn't have flood insurance means that it is pointless to have insurance in the first place... Why the hell would I even bother paying premiums if I know government is going to bail me out? Therefore you are now suggesting we create a totally new way to make every citizen dependent on government. Taxes would have to be raised to pay for this new governmental handout. The economy would soon go into the crapper as now I would have less take-home pay... and less money to spend. And as we all KNOW the economy is how much money the people have... not the government. I know it is sad to see people suffering... I understand that many people want to do something about that suffering. The answer is NOT more government power. The answer IS us... our own natural generosity... our own compassion... We as a people should help those who are hit by tragedy. Letting government do it or even demanding that government do it only hurts us all.
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It's amazing how difficult some people find it to actually read the Constitution. Among the fundamental reasons for the very existance of the constitution, as stated therein, is
We the people of the United States, in order to promote the general welfare do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Also stated in the constitution as one of its other equally weighted purposes is
We the people of the United States, in order to provide for the common defense do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
For all and any that may think that the use of the word "defense" implies that the forces and powers of the United states are meant to be directed only "to protect us from foriegn threats", I point out that in the Constitution itself it says that it is to provide for both the "common defense" the "general welfare".
It does not say that it exist only to resist "foreign powers". It says it provides for the "common defense". There is no restriction in the Constitution of any particular "thing" or "things" that it is to provide defense from or any that it is not allowed to provide a defense from. Things that the Federaal Government is there to protect us from might be the Canadian Air Force, Mongol hoards, Osama Ben Laden, swarms of locus, Bird flu, the sky falling, or an angry Cub Scout troup from Machias, Maine.
The "general welfare" is not promoted by failing to provide those persons whose lives and property were destroyed by the hurricanes of 2005. It also is not promoted by being too damned tight to afford to feed those among us that have no other means of getting food....or shelter or education or - - -.
A careful investigation of the Constitution will show that there are various responsibilities assigned to the Federal Government (defense and welfare being two of the most fundamental according to the Constitution) and that it is granted certain specified and limited powers, but never any privilege or right thaat is other than procedural.
One should also note that there is NO statement in the Constitution that limits or restrict what monitory or economic system the Government is to use and also that none is forbidden.
THe constitution grants rights to people, but only gives responsibilities to government and cedes it power only procedurally. Any "right" government may have or use is, in reality and in practice, only the responsibility of government to protect the people and their rights.
Some need to learn how to read and understand the rulings of the courts on how the Constitution is interpreted.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: DQR? you are assuming every person isn't ALREADY dependent on government? that's one of the most naive statements i've heard in a long time....
you OK man?
on another note? i been looking at my insurunce costs rising so much lately.... they are getting ridiculously high and i haven't filed any claims....
and i do shop and compare and even switch regularly.....
lol... yeah yeah I know.... seems we are all dependent on government at some level... but do we really want to give them more?
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