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Nanny
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With the Inauguration costing approximately 7 million dollars for lavish foods and dinning and parties,and etc. will anyone participating think of the hungry Tsunami victims. Where
are all of those morals you supposedly have George Bush!!!

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They have already sent over 300 million and just think Bush inaguration will be so much cheaper than Clinton's without all the hookers
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quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. Steiner:
They have already sent over 300 million and just think Bush inaguration will be so much cheaper than Clinton's without all the hookers


I was not referring to Clinton's hookers, Barbara Bush's jewels from the Bin Lauden family that she will be wearing or the Bush Twins liquor and rock bands.
I was referring that I cannot understand 7 million dollars to take an oath. I am a Justice of the Peace here in the County I live in and I took a Political Oath on January 1, 2005 and it cost $5.00.
I also do not recall a Tsunami coming ashore 3 weeks before the Clinton Inauguration. I am saying these Tsunami victims could certainly use at least 5 million more dollars for food. That would leave 2 million dollars for Bush to say "I will".


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Send all your own money and quit complaining that the government only sent $350 million of taxpayers' money, which many taxpayers, like myself, see as a waste of our money.

I resent being forced to provide welfare to foreigners who hate the U.S. and would never help the U.S., ever.


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Nanny, all those local businesspeople in DC have bills to pay too....
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Why doesn't Nanny go over there and help those America haters herself? Its bad enough we have to pay for all the low lifes in our own country
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quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. Steiner:
Why doesn't Nanny go over there and help those America haters herself? Its bad enough we have to pay for all the low lifes in our own country

What's the difference in helping them than what we are supposedly doing in Iraq???
What's that costing us???
You evidently think thats o.k.


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quote:
Originally posted by Nanny:
What's the difference in helping them than what we are supposedly doing in Iraq???
What's that costing us???
You evidently think thats o.k.


Yes. The mideast is critical to our economy, and to the world's economy to which our economy is linked. If we had pulled out of the mideast and not invaded Iraq, sanctions would now be lifted and Saddam would reinstitute is WMD programs. He could secretly suppy WMD to terrorists to use against us and we would never know. Once we began to be hit with terrorist WMD attacks, he could again invade his neighbors, consolidate his power, and we could well have a nuclear war in the mideast - world depression. At best, terrorists would at least get stronger if we had not invaded Iraq, and could take over Saudi Arabia, and again provoke world depression. Our strongest weapon to achieve mideast stability and peace is to spread democracy in the area, and invasion of Iraq was a first step.


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Well, they think California could be hit sometime in the future. I wonder how much the world will care If it happens to us. Just a thought.

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The one I really had to LMAO was our monied Pres gave $10,000 out of his own pocket while others were giving $millions. Big spender when it's his dough as opposed to the taxpayers'.

Have to agree with Sgt Steiner to a large degree about all the foreigners. Cannot walk into a Dunkin Donuts or a 7-11 without seeing them.
Stopped buying at Dunkin Donuts when I visited one of their restrooms to wash my hands...filthy, no soap and no towels of any kind...and those people were handling my food? Where the hell did they wash their hands?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
The one I really had to LMAO was our monied Pres gave $10,000 out of his own pocket while others were giving $millions. Big spender when it's his dough as opposed to the taxpayers'.

Can't imagine Bush would be such a fool to give one penny much less, 10 large, to the fund. Must be only for PR purposes. People who donate are jerks - makes then feel loving and good and self-righteous. This feeling lasts for a litte while. I would rather do something for my family, friends, or nation.
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the logical answer:

if we help save children today, they are MORE LIKELY to grow up to be our allies....

no bleeding heart liberalism nessecary...

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
the logical answer:

if we help save children today, they are MORE LIKELY to grow up to be our allies....

no bleeding heart liberalism nessecary...

Finally, someone makes sense.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
the logical answer:

if we help save children today, they are MORE LIKELY to grow up to be our allies....

no bleeding heart liberalism nessecary...

Nonsense! Idealistic liberalism. We help other people all the time and they hate us in return. The US is the most generous nation in the world and others would turn their back if we needed help, unless there is somehing in it for themselves.
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Glassman I have to disagree on that one. Look at what we have done for ungreatful people in the past. How many times have we bailed France out? Do they seem greatful? We free Nelson Mandella from life in prison and he calls us racist every chance he gets. Or how about the Germans we save them from soviet rule after ww2 and look at the thanks we get there.
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An Associated Press article (Ref. 1) about the killer tsunami reports "Pilots dropped food to Indonesian villagers stranded among bloating corpses Thursday, while police in a devastated provincial capital stripped looters of their clothing and forced them to sit on the street as a warning to others. The death toll topped 119,000, and officials warned that 5 million people lack clean water, shelter, food, sanitation and medicine."

Contrast this disaster with the series of hurricanes that hit Florida earlier this year. If America didn't have a constellation of weather satellites and an integrated warning system and well-trained police and National Guard troops, we would have lost thousands dead. Newspapers at the time of the hurricanes showed massive traffic jams as millions of people in Florida moved away from where the latest hurricane was going to hit.

The overwhelming theme of the latest tsunami is a total lack of preparation by the civil authorities in nation after nation in southern Asia. The people of south Asia with the exception of the Chinese businessmen in Singapore have few redeeming features. The nation of India produces low quality engineers and medical doctors, who are literally ruining America's aerospace industry and health care system as money-grubbing executives look for the cheapest possible employees regardless of quality. The nation of India with over one billion people was unable to deploy its own tsunami warning system, nor were they able to react to warnings from the U.S. four hours prior to the tsunami reaching them.

Many of these south Asian nations rely heavily on revenue from White tourists. Despite this, they made no attempt to prevent these tourists from getting slaughtered in a natural disaster. Not one Asian politician or bureaucrat had any concern for the White tourists, who fund their countries, let alone the untouchable peasants, who crowd the streets.

In contrast, the nation of Japan participates in a tsunami warning system and one Japanese town built massive tsunami flood gates to protect itself. It would have cost no more than a few hundred thousand dollars to build a system of pressure indicators on the floor of the ocean (as the U.S. did decades ago) to warn of an oncoming tsunami. Thailand and India could easily have used a fraction of their tourist income to fund a tsunami warning system.

Even the low-lying islands in south Asia could have made an effort to protect their populations. Old shipping containers could have been made watertight and buried to serve as "bomb shelters" against a tsunami. Emergency food and water could have been stored in these shelters, but planning ahead is apparently not common in that part of the world. Almost every nation hit by the tsunami had enough time to warn people to get to higher ground or shelters --if only they had set up a warning system, put loudspeakers on the beach and built shelters (if high ground could not be reached in a short time). Most of the casualties were washed out to sea and drowned or dashed against rocks and debris. This disaster is overwhelmingly a result of poor planning by south Asian nations, but pointing out this fact will be considered "racist" and so the truth will be buried again.

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If it's true that we are here to help others,
then what exactly are the others here for?

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once again i agree with much of what you say esp. the fact like we are being inundated with cheaply educated foreigners...but it's not THEIR faults sarge..it's the greedy americans that are hiring them....
those cheaply educated doctors are imported BY DESIGN and the AMA does it intentionally..

IMO the real problem is that many of our own leaders are SELLOUTS and i don't see anybody fixing that right now at all....

i think we are ill-prepared for disasters here as well...

if we have another hurricane season this year like we did last? we will find ourselves getting less financially able to recover....
and the weatehr experts are predicting that in general the weather has been GREAT for 70 years and should be returning to a more volatile "normal" state...read that expect more of the same, cuz it's the norm...

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quote:
Originally posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres*:
If it's true that we are here to help others,
then what exactly are the others here for?

The others are mostly parasites - taking help without giving anything back to the giver or their nation, or worse yet, using the help to better rob or exploit you or your nation. Thus, much helping only drains the helper's resources or even encourages evil (more parasitic behavior) in those helped.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
...IMO the real problem is that many of our own leaders are SELLOUTS and i don't see anybody fixing that right now at all....

You got that right. Liberals sell out to the parasitic poor while conservatives sell out to business interests. Difference is that helping the poor to thrive and multiply only produces more poor to drag us down in the future, while helping business enables business to better compete in the world market which raises our future standard of living relative to that of other nations. A greater number derives a greated benefit with conservative leadership.
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gee Art, i wish i could see the world in black and white so easily, sure would make it EZR to sleep at night [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
gee Art, i wish i could see the world in black and white so easily, sure would make it EZR to sleep at night [Big Grin]

It requires seeing reality, which is black or white (descretely ordered by categories and sub-categories of events, as can be mathematically or logically described). Keep trying and one day the bright light of reality may yet shine for you, to illuminate your confused perception.
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Did I say 7 million for the inaugural Party??? It's 40 MILLION!!!!! President Bush, of course, has already had a big inaugural party: in 2001 he enjoyed a four-day, $40 MILLION inauguration. How many $40 MILLION parties is one man entitled to, particularly since we're only transitioning from Bush to Bush. Bill Clinton spent less on his second inauguration ($23.7 million) than on his first ($33 million), and that was, moreover, in a very different context: The economy sparkled, we weren't at war, and a sizable portion of the world had not just fallen apart.
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