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MoneyMoneyMoney
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Sorry all but I figure no one will reply if this is elsewhere.
Plus what do I care. I pick WTVN, it doubles and I get 1 star.

These ratings say nothing. They mean nothing. We have awesome people like Jelly, Jim, Will, Dustoff, Peasor and so on that deserve 5 stars.

They need to revise this system as newcomers don't know who to trust or who the pumpers are.

What can be done about this? Maybe newcomers, no matter who they are start with 1 star and make their way up instead of a newcomer getting 5 stars and misleading people.

I understand we all have to do our own DD but the rating system is worthless, misleading, and needs a change.

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Just turn your stars off............
The damn things can be to easily manipulated by groups of people.

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Also, for some, they probably alter their true opinions. 'Fraid they might get star whacked for posting a negative.

Thats one reason I am generaly starless, hell I say what ever the heck I want! LOL

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Thanks for the reply Dustoff. I'll go turn it off now.

I just wish there was a better system of knowing who's who. Know what I mean? "Verne" lol.

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Track record! what it takes is paying attention to the honest ones.

You'll figger um out.

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So that's why some of you don't have stars. I thought maybe ones without stars were moderators or something. Come to think of it, are there any moderators for this message board???
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yes, but very shy...

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who's shy ?
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Can't be KTRAIN420
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Geezz, I spend to much time on this board, gotta get back to Hawaii!!
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IMO no one on these boards are any kind of an expert on penny stocks. No one in the universe is an expert on penny stocks. 90% of picking a good micro penny/penny stock is luck. If we were experts. We would not have missed all the little micro pennies that have ran up 3-10,000 percent or higher. We did not even find out about them until after the fact.
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i disagree.

there are some very good traders. no one is perfect, not even doctors.

A. some of those plays are to risky, or non feasible financially.

b. sometimes the bid/ask difference is in the 1000 percentile and you cant even get a fill for 5k.

I watch cramer get it wrong all the time, and he has a tv audience and those arent pennies.

My method (not an expert)

buy at or close to the bottom and wait. (the trick is to know what your buying and why)

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Thank you for all your replies.

I do feel that there are "better" pickers than others and some that understand much more than some of the "five" star clowns.

Can the Mods fix this so that the star ratings could be made off of picks alone or would that be too much of a hassle?

I also meant to throw Keithsan's name up along with Jelly and the others metioned at the beginning. He's had picks that have turned out great.

I really enjoy discussing and learning from ya'll. This is a great board.

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I've just gotten lucky..


yes, it would be tough to work your system....

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Money, you get my vote for raising the topic.

With such diverse trading styles here it's hard to recommend anything to any one, let alone a newbe. I don't know if you were around when Dardadog was a regular, but at times he posted so fast he was In and Out, and you'd still be put'n down yer coffee to look up what he was talking about.

Lots of big names don't post any more and I think ((there you go thinkin again stupid)) its because of a few picks that didn't work out. They take flack they don't need from people not up to speed and that's it...... Who needs that chit..... They make money and don't need to take krap from any body. No doubt the under ground message board is going long and strong.

My first few ventures into the market were good, and then disaster struck. That pick came from a "relative". He's still five stars to me, but we don't talk about THAT one. For that reason I never got into posting. I am learning to make money but never wanted one of my picks to loose someone else's savings. More newbes play their rent money than you think.

There are many people Here with a Lot of Valuable Info, more so than any other board. People just have to spend time here and get to know their styles.

Hang on a second.
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OK i'm back

For newbes it's hard. They have been "taught" by "someone" how the market works and how to "Make Money". They come here, or any where, and start to follow the Most Popular, the Most Mentioned people on what ever board they are on and EXPECT \ HOPE to make money. Even experienced people tend to be followers from time to time. Why not? And you may trust names you see more often.

Money, you bring up a very good point my friend.

From what I have seen, this is the best board for structure, format and level headed traders there is. For me anyway.

Jus be needen a Spell\Gwammer check button in dat emty place bellow and to da wight of da message box, ah.

I love this place!

Oh, I also don't post much due to the fact it takes me to long to put this chit on paper!

For Example:

While I was formulating what to say,...................Keithsan got Lucky

Five stars to you Sir.

PRIORITIES PEOPLE,......................PRIORITIES!!!!!

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I'm a newbie, about a month now and I have a list of people I will listen to. Learning a little more each day and hope to add value soon
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I've got two stars now. Wow.

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the star-rating thing is hit-or-miss. some of the top posters here like keithsan and Purl when she's around do have great ratings, and one could learn quite a lot from them. but also some other very good posters here have been unfairly downgraded imho. for example, because will sometimes speaks out against what i call "scam stocks", holders of those stocks can get irked at him and downgrade him, even if he's 100% correct in his concerns about said scam stocks. i ignore star ratings, but if you're of a mind to pay attention to them - at least take them with a grain of salt.

as for the "luck" thing: it certainly plays an element, but - over long time spans and lots of picks, it gets somewhat factored out imho. if one jumps around randomly and for example bought MLON or CMKX way up near the peaks despite all the warning signs: that's not "bad luck" when they crashed - that's poor DD and bad judgement. on the other hand, one can buy a series of perfectly good stocks, for very valid reasons, and still have them go do down on average; for example if a series of deals fall through or whatever reason. that might be considered at least in part "bad luck", or at least "the odds going against you".

i dont' view for example purl and keithsan's succeses in the market as "lucky". i view the market in terms of "trying to set up an array of promising risk/reward curves in your holdings". though a combination of good DD, reasoned decisions, good instincts in particularly in keithsan's case a good "system"; they have on average done quite well.

luck may play a part in individual holdings: for example maybe a few stocks did much better than they hoped, maybe a few went south even though all of their reasons for buying were very valid. if you have enough holdings over a long enough period of time, luck tends to average out and - on balance - skill and quality picks takes over the statistics of the equation.

really one also has to consider "styles", when trying to decide what input on this board might be helpful. dardadog is the master of the "10-minute hold", keithsan day-to-week holds, purl relatively long holds, etc.. lots of times i'm out of the office for a whole week at a time, so it's harder for me to follow say keith and darda's picks because they require more short-term attention during market hours.

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Is the above a "Paid Advertisement" LMAO

blue-in-my alerts .com?????

When was the last time Purl or Dardadog posted a stock? Have you been in a "Time Warp" somewhere?

If anybody has been waiting for a Purl Pick?

Well, they probably have Old Age problems by now.

Hey maybe if I pi$$ her off she will "poof" re-appear on her broom..LOL

There is more than two stock pickers around here folks...

BTW, the star system is abused by groups pumping there own kind....You figger it out, it ain't hard...Example: 1 post of a pumped Pink, and Wa-la! like magic the poster has 5 stars.....

Once in awhile? sure, but not as often as it happens. You will notice the new postrs climbing on the pump will also start showing 5 stars..It's patheticaly easy to figger out.

[ February 12, 2006, 09:26: Message edited by: Dustoff101 ]

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Dustoff, Keithsan, Jelly, LIL, Matt...are all great stock pickers they deserve five star ratings...but they don't have it.(Just naming a few)

Makes me wonder.

I think the bad ratings are from the people who don't know how to play the picks that are posted.
Then relay their anger with stars.

Just my opinion.

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Julia, I added to my post above ya, better clarity..

Track record! The star system just does not work...

Julia, in a perfect world? sure the star system should work...

Problem? It doesn't work that way..
Wallace, Tex, myself and a few others have busted some mighty lousy stocks and people pumping them.....They will gang up and star whack ya when ya bust um..

I picked up sumpin like 33 1 star votes when I started posting on the Q thread that the POS was going to .0001 at that time, it was at .0018

Now? it is trading at .0001 sometimes below that in the 5th digit.

Many have thanked me in PM'S that was worth a lot more than a star rating.

[ February 12, 2006, 09:45: Message edited by: Dustoff101 ]

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Maybe one way to improve the star system would be to break it down into differant catagories.

Example:
Performance
DD
Honesty

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I will show my stars, you decide...
I am hovering at the 2 star mark..

Watcha think, based on

Performance
DD
Honesty

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The funniest star whacking I took was on MYOG

Went from $8.00 to $33.00

Go figger on that one! LMAO

Just to give ya an idea how goofy voters can be, one character stated MYOG type stocks were for the rich..Also sumpin about buy pennys cause you can get more shares..

Now is that funny or what! still lol

So bring um down to 2 people, heres your chance!
This could be fun! lets see if we can get me down to 1 Star!

I think about 7 1 star votes should bring it down to 1 .....Ready? start! GO!!!!!!!!!!

I like being the underdog! 1 star rules!!!!!!

Hey! then I can RE-IPO ,,do a R/N to Offduster!!!

[ February 12, 2006, 10:25: Message edited by: Dustoff101 ]

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I got to get back to Hawaii....

Maybe Jelly will give us another monster pick....

Ready to book my flight Jelly Baby!!! Mornin!

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To mirror Blue's post, there's one scamster in particular who returns time and again with new aliases and followers--he positively *lusts* after stars and has his followers not only pump each others' ratings but also whack anyone who questions their pump n dump activities...

kinda reminds me of Dr Seuss:

quote:
Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches had bellies with stars.

The Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars.

Those stars weren't so big. They were really so small
you might think such a thing wouldn't matter at all . . .

It's relatively easy to read the various threads and learn who is and can be trusted; that being said, trust *no one* till it's clear, and even then don't buy sumpin just cuz so-and-so mentions it...

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I really like the idea Dustoff. That would be a great system if it could be.

Allstocks needs some type of system that tracks the picks as soon as they are posted and in which this happens over a period of time. When the period is over, say a few weeks or a month, then the computer system will state the facts and show the truth of picks generated. Plus competition is always a blast.

I watched Allstocks for a few months before even becoming a member and tried to keep a tract record and I have to say I am mucho grande up in the dough.

I just feel bad for newbies coming in here and throwing all they have in something that is totally worthless and dying. But then again, if they do no DD they might deserve it.

ALLSTOCKS is the place to be!!

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As Dusty points out, "ratings" cover broader areas than "picks." A coupla quick examples: Magnetic works his butt off maintaining the "splits" notification thread, yet rarely announces a pick (if he does, though--pay attention, lol); Ric rarely "picks," but what a font of knowledge...

If ratings were to somehow really "matter," they should have multi-stars that are virtually locked...Posters Emeritus, if you will [Wink]

...and that's merely a coupla, quick examples...

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Screw stars....the proofs in the pudding..period.

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quote:
Originally posted by Raptorsrule:
Screw stars....the proofs in the pudding..period.

I think we agree

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quote:
Originally posted by Raptorsrule:
Screw stars....the proofs in the pudding..period.

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Somehow that leaves one strange image.LOL

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Can I have A Star Please, I fell the same as MCJA does. There are a hand full of members that really like to help others.
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You said Screw... hee hee!
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KY, you're nutzzzz...

which is why like ya

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Good point Raptorsrule.

I don't think there can or will be anything to come out of "stars".

Please delete this post. Thank you.

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