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2argue
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TODAY WAS THE DAY TO GET IN BOYS......WATCH FOR IT NEXT WEEK, they have 3 diamond mines and 2 gold mines...and...
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First off, welcome to AllStocks. Why don't you tell us a little bit about CDC.V considering I can't find a single thing about it anywhere except for their web site which you posted here 5 days ago.
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quote:
Originally posted by Fallstaff:
First off, welcome to AllStocks. Why don't you tell us a little bit about CDC.V considering I can't find a single thing about it anywhere except for their web site which you posted here 5 days ago.

www.stockhouse.ca
should find all your news here

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When I finally found my better half after roaming halfway around the world--whatta yaknow she was in the same jr high school when i was ten years earlier--I did some research on diamonds--this was almost twenty years ago- so I don't have references to cite --I learned that DeBeers had already mined/cut/stored enough gem quality diamonds to supply every marriageable woman in the world with "a gem quality diamond"-whatever that means in specific--I can't tell you.( well-- ok i could but it would take more energy than its worth)the result was that I purchased an emerald as an investment and as a token. not all women would be pleased by this-- however the ones that wouldn't- don't matter to me anymore. DeBeers is an interesting study in how to tie a market down tighter than Bill Gates.I highly reccommend a historical study if you want to understand the true meaning of anti-trust versus trust. Gold-- on the other hand--is nice stuff--

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Sorry to be a pain but since both you (2argue) and I are relatively new to AllStocks one thing I've noticed that is very much appreciated around here is when you throw out a gem (no pun intended ha ha) of a stock you should back it up with a little dd or a chart or something. I could do the dd myself but then again I didn't throw this out there. Just a little advice as to how this community tries to work.
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quote:
Originally posted by Fallstaff:
Sorry to be a pain but since both you (2argue) and I are relatively new to AllStocks one thing I've noticed that is very much appreciated around here is when you throw out a gem (no pun intended ha ha) of a stock you should back it up with a little dd or a chart or something. I could do the dd myself but then again I didn't throw this out there. Just a little advice as to how this community tries to work.

sorry about that...you can find the charts here http://www.tse.com/HttpController?GetPage=QuotesViewPage&DetailedView=DetailedPrices&Language=en&QuoteSymbol_1=cdc

mind you I have been in this for a while.


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Really, I have not but you wouldn't know it if I didn't explain that to you. Thanks for the chart and by all means feel free to share your experiences and stuff. We are all trying to learn from each other and make a lot of $$
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OH GEE
I guess since I have only been here a short while I'm an idot too. During my time GLASSMAN has been a consistent supplier of good facts to check out. I think his comment here is "DIAMONDS" rerquire a lot of research. A side note in keeping with GLASS
40 years ago I was a machinist, the guy working nexy+t to me was a jeweler hired to polish 4' dia orffices for the Alaska pipeline. He & I (I was 19)designed & produced a Wedding set ( for a future wife) we imported a Debeeers diamond from Africa. I spent $350 and have had this set appraised every ten years. In 2000 this set appraised for $5220. Not a great investment ,but better than some on this board are experiencing. In addition it got me the best wife,partner, you supply the rest, because she was the "FIRST" person who the set fit. My "guess" is that GLASSMAN fits into this well also.
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industrial diamonds i use constantly at my chosen trade-- they are cheap and are being manufactured too.


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2 weeks old but... http://www.chinadiamondcorp.com/news/panasianewsreleasejanuary71.doc http://www.chinadiamondcorp.com/news/cdcnewsreleasejanuary8.doc http://www.chinadiamondcorp.com/news/panasianewsreleasenamechangecomplete.doc

here is some releases to read over the weekend.


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I'm assuming you guys are in Canada cuz E*Trade won't let me purchase anything on the TSX. Is there another symbol it falls under here? Cool pick I'd like to see more on it.
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you make a very good point here glassman. the words diamond or gold conjure up visions of extreeme wealth and prosperity. we all would like to have our little piece of that pie. the problem is, what is the actual feasibility of making a profit on any claim, or "mine". for all of the hype over the canadian diamond aka kimberlite deposits there is little practical information as to the actual feasability of bringing commercial quantities of diamonds of gem or industrial marketable value. dont confuse drilling a testhole into a deep kimberlite body with with a certain path to success.

my personal take on the fact that kensington and debeers are likely sitting on the best deposits is greatly supported by glassmans statement regarding the stockpile of gem quality diamonds by debeers.

who would want to control any deposits that could jeprodize the value of what they already have. whay does bill gates want to be in control of what is making him money? to protect what he already has and better control the price of it.

i suspect that there are diamonds in the kimberlite deposits held by small fry, but are they going to be easy to get to the surface? i suspect debeers and kensington hold the best claims where the kimberlite was most likely to turn into competition.

with the environment and energy costs making mining more difficult, the location and the quality of a deposit will play a huge part in how viable a deposit is. in alaska i saw extreemly high grade samples of stibnite (tin ore) and silver laden galena (lead ore which frequently is associated with silver) come in for assay that weren't even remotely valuable, because the amateur prospectors collected them without thinking about where they were in relation to where they could be turned into money.

i have no idea where the china diamond and gold plays are. but before anyone is overcome by the illusion of fortune always associated with these substances, be sure you know just how much it will cost to bring them to market.

so as you prospect for a good investment don't get caught out in the middle of nowhere with a pipe dream and no buyers. do some serious dd on this and any get rich quick scheme.

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http://www.chinadiamondcorp.com/news/cdc_announces_valuation.doc

...and yes, I am Canadian.

The main results are still to come...


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Cool Deal I'll have to ask E*Trade how to trade on the TSX. WHO'S GONNA WATCH "MIRACLE" BABY!!! THE 1980 DREAM TEAM!!!
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....sorry don't have a link for this one...
Diamonds in the rough
From an out-of-the-way office in Hyde Park, a London company has high hopes for its mining venture/adventure in China. But when it comes to mining, the stakes are high.
NORMAN DE BONO, Free Press Business Reporter 2003-12-06 04:14:23
The head office of London’s newest mining company is wrapped in grey plastic sheeting. Water running off the roof makes the walk to the door through a muddy, frozen parking lot a tricky business. The name Pan Asia Mining Corp. is nowhere to be seen, but there is a sign for Wall and Ceiling Distributors, the same business that answers the phone number on a Pan Asia business card. Like its rough exterior, understanding what this business is and how a Chinese mining operation came to be headquartered on Hyde Park Road is a challenge. Is this a multimillion-dollar bonanza about to happen or a fly-by-night, penny-stock venture destined for business history’s dustbin? “This company in the past did have some credibility issues, but now it does not. It has excellent credibility. Anything we put out is 100 per cent,” says Pan Asia chief executive Sam Halbouni, better known as owner of two London construction companies, Wall and Ceiling Distributors and Hitech Developments. In a bizarre business story themed it’s-not-what-you-know- but-who-you-know, Halbouni paid $1.6 million US and took control of Pan Asia last year when it was an inactive Vancouver-based mining business. While it would be easy to dismiss a business involved in the highly volatile work of mining in the equally volatile political climate of China, being run by a guy who admits he knew nothing about mining a year ago, a recently released independent engineering geology report suggests that Pan Asia just might have an interesting future. “It’s a good prospect,” said Michael Michaud, geologist with SRK Consulting in Toronto. “They have a number of big stones that are good quality and they also have smaller, industrial-quality stones.” This month, diamond experts from Antwerp, Belgium, will examine a 10,000-karat parcel of diamonds taken from the mine. Next month, they’ll issue a report on what it’s worth. That will determine the value of the mine. In fact, Halbouni, along with company president Philip Cassis, from St. Thomas, and chief operating officer Walt Darwish, a London accountant, travelled to China yesterday to meet the evaluators. There may be little value to the diamonds taken and a chance the diamonds aren’t worth the considerable expense of taking them out of the ground. But Michaud doubts it. In fact, he estimates there are 1.3 million karats ready to be taken from the mine and another million located deeper. All it takes is about 20 fine quality karats to pay for the cost of mining “and the rest can be gravy,” says Michaud. While the quality and value of the diamonds at Mine 701, as it’s called, in Shandong province, haven’t yet been valued, an average karat out of the ground is valued at about $90 US. Once it hits the jewelry stores, a good quality karat is worth anywhere from $8,000 to $12,000, and a top quality karat about $20,000. As Halbouni, Cassis and Darwish crowd around an oversized desk in Halbouni’s small office, the sounds of renovations in progress can be heard. Workers pound outside and the wind causes the plastic sheeting to flap loudly through an open window. They joke openly at the prospect that this is the London home of a Chinese mining venture which they feel just might be worth about $200 million US. “When we were over there, they welcomed us with open arms. We have excellent relationships there,” said Darwish, referring to elaborate luncheons and being met by bands and a parade when they announced they wanted to expand the mine operation. “We were standing at this parade—confetti was flying, the band was playing—and I turned to these guys and said, ‘What are guys like us from London doing here?’ “ he laughed. The story of Pan Asia coming to London is as winding as a mine shaft. Halbouni learned of Pan Asia as an investment opportunity when his construction company was working on Darwish’s home. After striking up a friendship, Halbouni learned Darwish studied companies and investments and asked if he knew of any prospects. Coincidentally, Darwish had been in contact with Cassis, president of Pan Asia, who knew the mining venture needed an injection of cash. Halbouni studied the company’s finances and believed different management could make it work. When he travelled to China and looked over the operation and reports, he made the $1.6-million US investment in December 2002. “It was producing at the time, and it hasn’t stopped,” said Darwish. “We knew there was (a problem with) management but we looked at it and it looked like the real thing.” But a diamond mine in China is still a challenging enterprise and despite the geological survey, there are no guarantees it will be a success, industry observers say. “Doing business in China is always difficult. It’s a very different system. Let’s just say there are a lot of people taking a slice out of the cake,” says Keith McCandlish, analyst with Associated Mining Consultants Ltd. in Calgary. “It can be difficult to get profits out of China. There are layers and layers of government approval needed for export.” There are stories of “parallel deals” in which, if China is in need of a mineral mined from its soil, it won’t allow it to be removed but will give the mining company equivalent value of another commodity the firm must then sell instead, said McCandlish. But Michaud believes business is changing in China. In fact, his business will open a Beijing office because so many Canadian operations are now mining in China. “They really want foreign investment now. A lot of companies are there.” But even if the state politics can be smoothed, few diamond mines end up making a profit, McCandlish says. “Of all the kimberlite rocks that contain diamonds, very few are mined for sale at a profit. “They don’t know what their revenue stream is yet,” he said of Pan Asia. “They have a lot of capital costs and they need to have their diamonds valued to determine their revenue stream. They are halfway along the road, but it is still a tough road.” Pan Asia, which in January will change its name to Chinese Mining Corp., is listed on TSX Venture exchange and Halbouni wants to increase the business. He has invested more than $3 million US in a second mine nearby called 702, for which the geologist’s report has yet to be completed. And he’s eyeing a third mine for gold and copper called 703. Halbouni made enough money in construction that he did not need a Chinese mining venture, but he became intrigued by a completely new and different world. “When I heard about this, I thought why not step up to the plate. I believe in fate. I like adventure and taking a chance and I got it.” As for moving the head office to London, Halbouni, 40, is married with six boys and saw no reason why he couldn’t operate a Chinese mine out of London—he is also still running his other businesses. “I am here to stay. We’re Londoners.” Jim Whyte, editor of the Northern Miner newspaper in Toronto, calls mining in China “the flavour of the month. Everybody and their dog is there right now.” A discovery last year by a Vancouver firm has helped drive a kind of new-age gold rush to China and numerous small mining businesses have deals in the country. “It’s still a situation where investors have to keep their heads,” says Whyte. “There are a lot of mines and many of them are small and inefficient. “Even if there are mineral deposits, it’s still a crap shoot. There are economic hurdles and drill holes can come up empty. “There have been cases where engineers say it looks good, but when they’re drilled they come up empty.”
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trades as....or is going to trade as??
CDCFF on otcbb

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China Diamond Corp (C-CDC) - Private Placement
China Diamond 2,888,000-share private placement

China Diamond Corp
CDC
Shares issued 153,309,754
Jan 23 2004 close $ 0.41
Monday January 26 2004
Private Placement
The TSX Venture Exchange has accepted for filing documentation with respect to a non-brokered
private placement announced Nov. 27, 2003, and amended Jan. 5, 2004:
Shares:
2,888,000
Price:
25 cents per share
Warrants:
2,888,000 share purchase warrants to purchase 2,888,000 shares
Warrant exercise price:
25 cents for a one-year period
Placees:
23

Pursuant to Corporate Finance Policy 4.1, Section 1.11(d), the company must issue a news release
announcing the closing of the private placement and setting out the expiry dates of the hold period(s).
The company must also issue a news release if the private placement does not close promptly. Note
that in certain circumstances, the TSX-V may later extend the expiry date of the warrants, if they
are less than the maximum permitted term.
(c) Copyright 2004 Canjex Publishing Ltd. http://www.stockwatch.com


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SUBJECT: Hey GOBS Good luck stay long Posted By: NETS
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China Diamond reviews technical report of 702, 703
2004-01-27 05:37 ET - News Release

Mr. Sam Halbouni reports

CHINA DIAMOND CORP ANNOUNCES INDEPENDENT TECHNICAL REPORTS ON 702 AND 703 PROPERTIES

China Diamond has learned that an independent technical report on the company's 702 and 703 properties in the Shandong province of the People's Republic of China has been completed.

"The size and quality of the diamonds obtained in drilling at the 702 property are great incentives to accelerate exploration of the property," said chairman and chief executive officer, Sam Halbouni. "We are optimistic that further exploration will help better define and improve the value to be realized in both the 702 and 703 properties."

The 702 Xiyu property

The 702 mining licence, totalling 0.75 acre, is located in northeastern China, a short distance from the company's producing 701 Changma mine. Exploration since the 1960s has identified 32 diamondiferous kimberlite bodies in the area encompassing the 702 property. Of these, there are nine major diamond-bearing kimberlite bodies and pipes forming the Xiyu cluster, all of which are located on the 702 property licence area. Between 1966 and 1970, the No. 7 geological brigade completed surface trenching, pitting, bulk sampling of the near-surface kimberlite and diamond drilling of 209 holes. An adit, having dimensions of 1.6 metres by 2.0 metres, was driven at a 30-degree decline for 180 metres from surface, approximately 90 metres below surface, and driven through eight of the pipes in the cluster. The No. 7 brigade carried out additional bulk sampling in the period from 1987 to 1990, by test pitting four of the pipes. After review of the available information, SRK is confident in the reliability of the data.

The kimberlite bodies defining the Xiyu cluster are found at or near to surface and are typically separated by 20 metres to 50 metres. It has been inferred from the deep drilling of the kimberlite in the cluster that, with the exception of two pipes, all of the bodies coalesce at depth forming a Z-shaped body measuring 80 metres wide and at least 500 metres long. The drilling shows that the kimberlite, with a grade that increases with depth, continues to at least 600 metres below surface, with excellent potential to add to the current resource base.

In relation to China Diamond's neighbouring 701 Changma mine, the kimberlite pipes from 702 property are characterized by larger and better quality diamonds (less than four millimetres in size) from relatively low-grade kimberlite.

The classified mineral resources for the 702 property as of Nov. 1, 2003, according to the "CIM Standards on Mineral Resources and Reserves: Definitions and Guidelines" (August, 2000) as evaluated by SRK, are summarized in table one.


TABLE ONE
SUMMARY OF CLASSIFIED MINERAL
RESOURCES FOR THE 702 PROPERTY
As of Nov. 1, 2003

Contained
Category Tonnes Grade carats
(ct/t)

Measured 5,021,000 0.050 251,050

Indicated 4,645,000 0.061 283,345

Total
measured
and
indicated 9,666,000 0.055 534,395

Total
inferred 27,664,000 0.121 3,347,344


Note: Based on 1.0-millimetre stone size lower cutoff.

Mineral Resources estimated to depth of 450 metres below surface.

SRK supports the aforementioned mineral resources and recommends that additional bulk sampling, either from additional drilling or underground sampling, be completed to better define different phases within the kimberlite cluster that often have different physical characteristics, diamond stone size distribution and diamond quality. In the opinion of SRK, there exists excellent potential to better define the higher- and lower-value areas of the deposit in which to assess various mining and processing scenarios that maximize economic viability. SRK believes that there exists potential to define a lower tonnage resource with an overall higher average grade than is currently defined.

SRK recommends that additional parcels of diamonds be collected from the bulk sample and valued based on international market sales, and that the valuation be completed for individual pipes, or by phases within each pipe, considering the high variability across the deposit.

In the opinion of SRK, the general area of the 702 Xiyu licence has excellent potential for hosting additional diamond-bearing kimberlite bodies by following up on the initial discoveries of the Chinese geologists. There are a comparatively large number of kimberlite pipes and bodies in the general area of Xiyu forming a north-south diamondiferous belt that is almost 10 kilometres long where 32 kimberlite bodies have been identified to date. If the trend to higher grades at depth continues, evidenced by several of the known pipes, then there may very well be other economically attractive diamond bearing pipes.

Given the proximity of the 702 property to the company's producing 701 Changma mine, there exists potential for synergies in the continued exploration and development of the 702 property.

The 703 property

The 703 property is held under an exploration licence covering approximately 400,000 acres. The No. 7 geological brigade of China has successfully identified a number of diamondiferous kimberlite deposits in the region surrounding the 703 property, including the company's neighbouring 701 Changma mine and the 702 Xiyu diamondiferous kimberlite cluster. SRK believes the emplacement of the kimberlites in the region are related to deep mantle structures that have been further controlled by near-surface crustal faults. The 703 property is located at the intersection of several such major fault zones. The 703 property is underlain by primarily Archean migmatites and gneisses, and much younger Cambrian to Ordovician formations of calcareous sediments and limestones, and is considered a potential host for the same type and age of kimberlite that is found at the neighbouring 701 Changma mine. A thick sequence of Quaternary sediments covers a significant portion of the 703 property, and in the opinion of SRK, may have masked potential kimberlite outcroppings to previous explorers.

Previous exploration on the 703 property has identified several different geological environments known to host diamondiferous deposits, including:

the Wujiacun mountain top conglomerate, where early to pre-Quaternary diamondiferous conglomerate has in-filled the karst type of weathering of the Cambrian limestone in the northeast portion of the licence area;

the Dajintou diamondiferous pipe, also known as the "para-kimberlite" eruptive, is mineralogically similar to the neighbouring 701 Changma kimberlites; and

a number of stratiform basal conglomerates containing numerous diamond indicator minerals.

Follow-up exploration consisting of surface sampling of rock float, test pitting and shallow auger drilling completed by the No. 7 geological brigade has recovered a number of diamonds and indicator minerals from these exploration targets. The results are summarized in table two.


TABLE TWO
SUMMARY OF RECOVERED DIAMONDS AND
INDICATOR MINERALS (PRIOR TO 1996)

Recovered Wt. of
Rock diamonds diamonds Pyropes Chromites
(mg)

Quaternary
Sands and
Gravels 87 410.59 113 1,647

Mountain
top
conglo-
merate 2,205 5,860.85 678 35

Para-
kimber-
lite 86 22.96 67 4

Basal
conglo-
merate - - 3 10

Total 2,378 - 861 1,696


In addition to these anomalous zones, the company completed systematic geological examination of the entire licence area, including 1:10,000 scale geological mapping, stream sediment sampling and ground magnetic surveying that lead to the discovery of several additional zones. The most significant of these being Songjiazhuang, Xiaoquanzhuang and Beixiaoshan zones, where follow-up overburden sampling has recovered a total of eight diamonds and 1,437 grains of high-chromium chromite.

SRK considers the 703 property to be highly prospective for hosting diamondiferous kimberlite deposits, as well as other sedimentary-hosted diamond deposits, because the regional trend of known kimberlite deposits transects the 703 property, and because no kimberlite source of the diamonds and indicator minerals has been identified to date.

SRK recommends identifying the source of the diamonds recovered from surface sampling by means of additional exploration so that known targets can be better assessed and new areas of potential diamondiferous deposits identified. Closely spaced systematic stream and slope sediment sampling, detailed ground magnetometer surveying, and geologic mapping at 1:2000 scale should be completed over the known zones, an area of approximately 4,900 acres. In addition, core drilling is recommended at Dajingtou and at Xiaoquanzhuang, where pipe-like bodies have been inferred from previous geophysical surveying and surface geologic mapping.

Both reports were completed by Michael Michaud, PGeo, of SRK Consulting, a qualified person as defined by National Instrument 43-101, upon completion of a recent site visit. Mr. Michaud is the qualified person for both properties and has reviewed the contents of this news.




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