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bdgee
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The enormous blades of the huge turbines used to produce electricity with wind are constructed from glass and carbon fiber, impregnated with resins, which are principally a petroleum product (some can be manufactured otherwise, mostly from coal). As the cost of oil goes up, so does the cost for the resins and, logically, there is a point, somewhere, that it ceases to be cost effective to produce electricity from wind, because the cost of the blades is excessive. Have you considered that the price of oil may be being "rigged" to reach that point, thus maintaining a near monopoly in energy production for the coal and oil industries?
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You haven't been around in awhile Bdgee how are things going?
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hey bdgee

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they are pretty darn big:

Typical 1000 kW Machines on the Market Today
Even if prices are very similar in the range from 600 to 750 kW, you would not necessarily want to pick a machine with as large a generator as possible. A machine with a large 750 kW generator (and a relatively small rotor diameter) may generate less electricity than, say a 600 kW machine, if it is located in a low wind area. The working horse today is typically a 1000 kilowatt machine with a tower height of some 60 to 80 metres and a rotor diameter of around 54 metres.

1 000 Dollars per Kilowatt Average
The average price for large, modern wind farms is around 1 000 USD per kilowatt electrical power installed. (Note, that we are not talking about annual energy production, yet. We'll return to that in a couple of pages. Energy production is measured in kilowatt hours.


http://www.windpower.org/en/tour/econ/index.htm

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Nice to hear from you bdgee I hope all is well
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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
The enormous blades of the huge turbines used to produce electricity with wind are constructed from glass and carbon fiber, impregnated with resins, which are principally a petroleum product (some can be manufactured otherwise, mostly from coal). As the cost of oil goes up, so does the cost for the resins and, logically, there is a point, somewhere, that it ceases to be cost effective to produce electricity from wind, because the cost of the blades is excessive. Have you considered that the price of oil may be being "rigged" to reach that point, thus maintaining a near monopoly in energy production for the coal and oil industries?

Not sure that specifically is the goal.
The goal I am sure is to collapse the dollar based economy.
I do doubt that anyone loathes windmills enough to plunge the world into depression to get rid of them.
I was kind of hoping you would come back with a thunder...
Not that whispering flatulence.

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T e x
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nice post [Wink]

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You bad Relentless lol Anyways those blades are made only once and probably rarely repaired or replaced... so me thinks you wrong on that Bgeesus. Out on furlough or supervised visit?

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T e x
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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
nice post [Wink]

i meant beedge's post

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Sure you did
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yeah, maybe i will jump on the GM band wagon for a while, looks like it will bottom out soon, or maybe i will wait another week for a better time to get in, and catch a few dividends later


do da do ask me no questions i'll tell u no lies

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