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It will be easier to follow DTGP's preformance if it has its own thread, so I am moving these couple of posts from the FCPG. I am not recommending DTGP as a play, only helping with some DD.

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here's a bone for you guys since I'm heading out DTGP. keep an eye on it. Merry Christmas and good luck!

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A very interesting pick. Maybe it deserves a look in greater deatail, a little DD, if you will. Always interested to see picks from other posters, but always happy to help with a closer look too.

Well, for starters it is a pink. Now, contrary to some people's opinions not all pennies are pinks. There is a clear and dramatic difference between pinks and OTCBB. If you will indulge me, pinks have a much lower standard of reporting, (not making some important facts avaiable to the public in the investor's decision making process), while OTCBB's are required to report, making important facts available to the public. So, keeping that in mind, we have a pink here, a nonreporting company.

One might begin investigating this company on pinksheets.com. Some of the important things I always look for are A/S, O/S, Financials. Unfortuantely, this company does not file Form 10's or financials, so we either don't know the current share structure, or we have to look elsewhere. Why don't we take a look at pinksheets.com, and see just what information is avaible.

DTGP :

Well, the first thing we see appears to be discouraging.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=dtgp

However, that is standard disclaimer for pinksheets, simply saying they won't endorse a company that does not file a minimum of quarterly financials. Not the end of the world, but it sure would be nice if that information was available. We can discount that as being harmful for now, but it is a bit of a warning.

Let's move to company profile, maybe that will give us some more information for those little important facts we seek, and the company has omitted to show us, or might be hiding.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=DTGP

Anything we can glean from this to help us in our assessment? Maybe. Incorporated in the state of Nevada, Outstanding Shares: 42,000,000 as of 2005-07-12, (hmmm, 7/12/05, almost a year and half old information), Authorized Shares: 100,000,000 as of 2005-07-12, (same as O/S. dated), shares decreased by 1 for 1000 split Record Date: 2005-06-30, (OUCH!). The only useful thing we see there is the R/S, we now know they diluted and R/S 1 for 1,000, so we can assume that that 42,000,000 had 3 more 0's behind it prior to 7/12/05, or 42,000,000,000, a huge number. One might argue that A/S is only 100M as of 7/15/05, but thankfully we have other places to look, maybe the SOS of Nevada can help us out? Well, look at that, the sneaky devils raised the A/S to 250M on 11/3/06. Not the end of the world, still a managable A/S and potential O/S. However it MIGHT indicate some dilution is in effect, or soon might be.
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/corpActions.aspx ?lx8nvq=XKWra3iPmiZgpvDZjJIKWg%253d%253d&CorpName=DOLL+TECHNOLOGY+GROUP%2c+INC.

36 trading days since the A/S were raised. Average volumes seem to be about 500,000 for that period, not unusually high, so I would suspect that little, if any of the 150% increase in A/S has been issued and sold into the market. I do wonder WHY the 150% increase in A/S, think this company might issue them, and dilute the share value? They raised that A/S count for a reason, hmmmm.

Assuming one could have bought this late Friday afternoon at .015, not knowing the current B/A, I will be very interested in seeing just how this does. "IF" it goes it will encounter first, and probably light resistance at .0157, and "if" it gets by that, it will kill itself getting by .018.

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I just noticed the Nevada SOS link does not bring you to the details of Doll Technology Group. You will have to enter Doll Technology Group in the box shown on this link :

https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpSearch.aspx

Then click on search, then click on entity name, then go to the bottom of that page and click on Actions\Ammendments, to see the change in A/S dated 11/03/06.

I like to furnish proof with official sites and documentation, if/when it is available. Investors should keep this important practice in mind when making a decision to invest. When posters fail to include proof of claims consider it as an opinion. Also consider that there aren't any consequence to a poster that recommends a stock purchase, however there might be consequences to your account though, sometime good, sometime bad. When a stock is recomended and it lacks any substantial facts and reference sites please excercise care, and/or learn to investigate for shortcmings and strengths on your own. Considering plays with detailed information and back up included might give a potential investor a bit more confidence or cause for caution than just seeing 4 alpha characters.

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Interesting find here :

http://www.spamstockreport.com/commentary/72/New-spam-for-DTGP-PK

"New stock spam campaign appears to have started for DTGP.PK (aka Doll Technology Group). Several examples were caught by my Spamcop.net account and spam traps today. See http://www.spamnation.info/go/stock/DTGP.PK for info on previous stock spam regarding this firm.

Date: 2006-12-07"

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Thanks Will. This should be added to the DTGP thread noted here. There are a couple other small threads to it also. But maybe putting this in there and closing this one would add to the benefit for those that are playing this as a long play. What do you think? there is a lot of good dd in there.

I mentioned this as a possible bouncer to be watched. I have a bunch of stocks that I watch for lows that may be worth a good swing play. up to about 200 stocks on my list - some are worthy investments - some are pos never touch with a 10 foot pole - but they are a great learning experience to watch how they manipulate and then trap people leaving them holding the bag. My strategy is to pick a few out of my 200 that have a decent swing range.

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My opinion is on record in an above post :

"Assuming one could have bought this late Friday afternoon at .015, not knowing the current B/A, I will be very interested in seeing just how this does. "IF" it goes it will encounter first, and probably light resistance at .0157, and "if" it gets by that, it will kill itself getting by .018."

Buying at .015, and if it performs to .018, that will be a gain of 20%. IMO, the only thing that gets it by the .018, is news of approval for their safety products, or contracts/sales/reported revenues, of their water conservation product.

The increase of 150% of the A/S should be carefully considered by potential investors. Companies/CEO with history of dilution know exactly how to play the penny dilution, R/S game. This company has tasted human flesh with that 1 for 1,000 R/S, and will most likely dilute into news. IF the news is strong enough, it will carry it through the .018 resistsnce, if it is fluff, expect to see test its low even in the event it has news.

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I would look for a lower entry IMO .007 target entry and then an early exit.

"The increase of 150% of the A/S should be carefully considered by potential investors. Companies/CEO with history of dilution know exactly how to play the penny dilution, R/S game. This company has tasted human flesh with that 1 for 1,000 R/S, and will most likely dilute into news. IF the news is strong enough, it will carry it through the .018 resistsnce, if it is fluff, expect to see test its low even in the event it has news."

I am learning this dilution game better and better. FCPG was a good example for that IMO.

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"What do you think? there is a lot of good dd in there."

What I think is irrelevant. The facts I KNOW are relevant.

The thread referenced was started by : permanentjaun
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The price of DTGP was a little better than .07 at that time. Since it has done nothing but go down, with a couple bounces of about 100%.

The chart will show this : http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=DTGP&p=D&yr=0&mn=8&dy=0&id=p69863957502

So, I suspect the folks commenting on that old tired thread posting their alledged DD, are wishful thinkers, bagholders, and forced to be pumpers now.

The simple fact that the company has raised the A/S makes all that alledged DD obsolete. People are looking a new set of circumstances.

That is not to say DTGP cannot see a bounce off of bottom, but I say a modest 20% to 30%, without OUTSTANDING NEWS.

I did not and will not take the time to read the old thread, because it is most likely tainted with, theories, inuendo, hopes, wishes, and nonsense, that does not serve the current facts of today.

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"I am learning this dilution game better and better. FCPG was a good example for that IMO."

FCPG & DTGP have very little in common.

FCPG was an EXCELLENT play, at the .01, original alert and the .007, retrace. It is/was EXCELLENT until this most recent run to .0199/ .02 it expereinced Friday. Some might have found it difficult to believe that FCPG had ths type of advance since early December, and especially after 12/14. On 12/14 FCPG filed an SB-2A for : 909,090,909. Thats a lot of wood to chop.

Read it : http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001144204%252D06%252D052505%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C12%255C14%255 C&symbol=FCPG

Seems very unlikely that FCPG would experience a run after that filing and announcement, but fact is, it did. Some might be asking, why? It is potential dilution of almost a Billion shares. We are taught to run from dilution. How did this run with that open? The answer is simple, MM accuumulation. They brought the price down to .01 and .007 to manufacture sells and collect inventory, when the SB-2A dilutive filing came out, they ran it to recover their money and make a profit before the dilution began.

The move to dilute was predidctable. How, one might ask? Well, to suspect or have an educated guess about that, one would have to do some deeper DD than O/S, Chart, Vol, PPS. One might want to check who is involved with CYOS and FCPG, and what he did to/with CYOS after gaining control. Funny how these things have a way of repeating themselves. Canon Bryan - research him, and look for his appearance as Chief Financial Officer of CYOS & FCPG, and notice the behavior of CYOS stock and the actions taken at both companies after his appointment.

DTGP is a completely different animal.

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What I liked about FCPG since they are not a pink is that they filed their 8ks, those sells can be marked on the charts. Using this pattern to compare dilution on a pink stock is the only relevance I was using as a comparison.

Excellent points Will. I plan on digging deeper after the holidays. Enjoy your Christmas.

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The volume increases you see on the chart are not a result of dilution for FCPG, imo. If/when, the Form 4's are filed from the "old insiders" that will be proven out. I would attribute the volume spikes for FCPG to the MM's having complete control over the B/A process and walking the price down, discouraging investors, and freeing up shares for their inventory. That is all speculation and cannot be proven now. Like I said if/when, the old insiders file their From 4's, divesting themselves of their shares, you will see that the dates do NOT coincide. I believe they have 30 days to file the Form 4. The "old insiders" controlled about 40M shares of the O/S. Pierre Cote, CEO, holds the lion's share of insiders stock 28,641,214, and the SEC has probably frozen him by virtue of the Wells Notice he received. So, in my estimation the only "dilution", (to imply insider selling is dilution imo, is taking liberties with its definition), that could have ocurred lately is 12M shares of the other insiders, but I even doubt that, and regarding the SB-2A filed 12/14, it is my opinion it has not been offered to the market yet. You will know when it goes on sale, their will be much higher than usual volume and a drop in the price in increments of .001 trading range over a few weeks time. ARCA and maybe NITE will appear on the Ask selling hard with lot sizes from 100K to 999K instead of the customary 50K size. If you would like to predict the behavior of FCPG now, use AVVW or CYOS as your model. Eventually FCPG will be trading between .0020 / .0030.

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That makes complete sense Will. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I'll have to give my theory a harder look. And hit the charts again.

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see if my chart comes through this time. Get the right news as Will was mentioning this could be good for a short swing.

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Lots of accumulation there, are we sure dilution has been happening here?

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No where did I say DTGP IS PRESENTLY being diluted. It is however, set up to dilute, with that increase of 150% in A/S. It might have a modest bounce, but I think the company will eventually dilute into a run spurred by news.

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Lots of accumulation there, are we sure dilution has been happening here?



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quote:
Originally posted by will:
My opinion is on record in an above post :

"Assuming one could have bought this late Friday afternoon at .015, not knowing the current B/A, I will be very interested in seeing just how this does. "IF" it goes it will encounter first, and probably light resistance at .0157, and "if" it gets by that, it will kill itself getting by .018."

Buying at .015, and if it performs to .018, that will be a gain of 20%. IMO, the only thing that gets it by the .018, is news of approval for their safety products, or contracts/sales/reported revenues, of their water conservation product.

The increase of 150% of the A/S should be carefully considered by potential investors. Companies/CEO with history of dilution know exactly how to play the penny dilution, R/S game. This company has tasted human flesh with that 1 for 1,000 R/S, and will most likely dilute into news. IF the news is strong enough, it will carry it through the .018 resistsnce, if it is fluff, expect to see test its low even in the event it has news.



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I agree...but don't you think before they dilute, they'd want to run it up a tad?

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Could be, that is the usual pattern. You learned that from VSNI. I just don't see that sustained of a run. The increase in the A/S in conjunction with the email spam campaign, makes me suspicious.

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keeping an eye on volume

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quote:
Originally posted by BooDog:
keeping an eye on volume

looking for low or high?

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looking to see if there is a red candle today - not expecting much action this week. Would like to see it gets close to 100k but doubt it will get to 200k. if momo stays on the + side I'll be happy. Watching to see the interest level.

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12/29/06 .0160 +0.0040 +33.33 %
12/28/06 .0120 -0.0020 -14.29 %
12/27/06 .0140 +0.0010 +7.69 %
12/26/06 .0130 -0.0020 -13.33 %

Performance since my post of 12/22/06 :


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Originally posted by will: My opinion is on record in an above post :

"Assuming one could have bought this late Friday afternoon at .015, not knowing the current B/A, I will be very interested in seeing just how this does. "IF" it goes it will encounter first, and probably light resistance at .0157, and "if" it gets by that, it will kill itself getting by .018."

Buying at .015, and if it performs to .018, that will be a gain of 20%. IMO, the only thing that gets it by the .018, is news of approval for their safety products, or contracts/sales/reported revenues, of their water conservation product.

The increase of 150% of the A/S should be carefully considered by potential investors. Companies/CEO with history of dilution know exactly how to play the penny dilution, R/S game. This company has tasted human flesh with that 1 for 1,000 R/S, and will most likely dilute into news. IF the news is strong enough, it will carry it through the .018 resistsnce, if it is fluff, expect to see test its low even in the event it has news.



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daum hell of a white candle. nope ... not playin this one myself. But nice % play. watching for the bottoms is what I was looking for. .011 - .017. I wouldn't rec. this to anyone. only good for a quickie IMO. You started a good thread here Will. Picking bottom can be very difficult. 52 week lows can make you think that it is a dead givaway but potential/news/speculamentation/hype/ a million other things always play a part. Buy low - sell high. Good luck to ALL in 07.
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Forgot all about watching the progress of this one.

Now it might be a much better play than it was right before Christmas. Would have loved to got it when they dropped it to .0032.

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