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You know what though, if Noah and Debi didn't get free shares they should be complaining to UC real quick. Because you would be the only pumpers that didn't get them. Along with every other Tom, Dick, and Harry.
I even got some information on some DD I did about the 360. That most were paybacks and family. That the original investors that were told this was going to sky rocket and were convinced by con man UC that it would make them a lot of money if they gave UC startup in exchange for shares. But since dilution started almost immediately after UC took control there share became worthless real quick and they demanded compensation or they would start trouble.
Oh well, as I stated if you didn't get your free shares there you should be real upset.
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That is funny, he pumps this thing for nothing. LOL
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lets see desormeua gets $1.5 million cash & 60 some billion shares in his company, business works to sell. Ginger the office manager gets at least $4.6 million for her shares. i'd say UC was underpaid getting only $15 million, a few million dollar home, cash for slot machines & hookers & $4 million for race cars. Heck Ron got $1 million for just being related & pumping cmkx at the track, plus of course a bunch of shares.
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legal, get real please CMKX a MAJOR MINING EXPLORATION COMPANY?????!!!!!! MAJOR!!!!!????? cmkx isn't even a minor mining company.
don't ya love when the cult is reduced to saying the fired auditor couldn't have known anything was illegal because cmkx doesn't have any records to prove it with?? legal you've stated this a few times. do you understand the meaning of NO RECORDS???!!! the fact that nothing can be proven including where all the money from selling shares went should at the very least give you a hint. but then i guess desparate times call for desparate measures...lol
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There has been a lot of speculation as to what has been going on behind the scenes. Ive avoided addressing this because Ive wanted to stay as far away from speculating about exactly who the good guys are and who are the bad guys are as much as possible. Much of what is to follow I learned last year from public records. My research recently took on new meaning with some great detective work done by PHXGOLD back in April and May of this year.
When the company was formed there were people who provided seed capital. This seed capital was used primarily to purchase and maintain the many claims UC had secured in Canada. BTW, as a complete aside, UC has gotten a lot of criticism on these boards for having money and buying a new house, etc. Urban got his buns in gear and worked his ass off tying up some of the most valuable mineral claims in North America long before CMKX was ever established. I believe he sold or optioned some of these claims for some walking around money. Big money? Yes. And that should be an excellent clue as to the value of the remainder of the claims. If thats a crime, we should all be criminals.
Anyway, it seems that some of the people who provided the seed capital necessary to get the company off the ground became greedy. Without going into a lot of speculative details, some of them tried to wrestle the company away from Urban. Doing this would allow them to keep all of the claims for themselves. This type of thing is actually pretty common in the dog-eat-dog business world. One of the tricks I believe they pulled was to conspire to dilute the stock by teaming up with certain hedge funds and MMs. They hoped to force the company into bankruptcy. Without going into more details, Ill just say that this situation became so serious that UC was once in very real danger of losing control of the company.
Roger Glen came aboard and did a lot of very valuable work for CMKX. However, he was unable to put a stop to the outright criminal activity taking place. I believe that what he did accomplish was to get certain entities ready for a merger and or IPO. With that work done, he left the heavy stuff to someone else.
That someone was Bob Mahue. I see IBM as a take-charge, no BS guy. I can only speculate here, but I would guess that during his first meeting he minced no words. He asked UC if he had any skeletons in his closet and told him that hed better come clean. UC answered, Mahue checked him out, and confirmed that he was okay. Next, he inquired as to the nature of the companys problems. UC answered that certain people and entities involved in providing SOME OF the seed capital were holding the company back by selling short and other devious stuff. Forgive me for not being more specific here, I dont want to speculate and Im sure most of you can understand what Im referring to anyway.
Once IBM hears the entire story he brings in Stoecklein. There seems to be an issue about revealing the names of certain insiders who provided the initial seed capital. According to some of the great DD of one of our finest shareholders, the names of certain hostile people could only be revealed if ordered by a judge a judge whose decision could not be appealed. Mahue, being a man of action immediately asked, how do we get such a decision? The plan for the revocation hearing was hatched. IMO, the reason were facing revocation is because once we appeal, we will be in front of a judge whose decision cannot be appealed this is one of the provisions outlined in a public filing. But the story does not end there.
With that plan in place, Mahue then employed a back door approach to the problems. He deployed his own investigation company along with all their high-level connections within the Justice Department and other world class law enforcement agencies, and began looking at certain MMs and offshore hedge funds. His goal was to see if he could nail some of the bad guys without the official blessings of the court. For those of you who have been following Mr. Mahue, you might remember that his company busted more than 200 big time racketeers and money launderers only two years ago. These people were involved in some serious stock scams including NSS. So, from the looks of things, we have a two-pronged attack going on get them through the courts or get them by busting the hedgies and their clients.
Much of this post is educated speculation. However, it is my opinion that plan A was to get revoked so we could go before an appellate judge who would order the names of certain individuals revealed. IMO, Brenda Murray was made aware of this before the hearing. Remember that Roger Glen was a top level SEC enforcement man and Murray is the senior Administrative Law Judge. Their paths would almost inevitably have to have crossed over the years. My guess is RG gave the judge a heads up on the entire situation well before the hearing. Frizzell and Hakala would not have been privy to this disclosure.
On the other front, Mahues team of investigators went to the Bahamas (the home of the suspected offshore hedgies) and turned over a few stones. I believe that Mahues team has actually gotten the necessary evidence to convict the hostiles. But Im not sure. Perhaps we need to complete both plans to score.
I could be way off on this but after doing a massive amount of my own DD, it explains nearly everything that we see before us. For those of you who have tracked this far, maybe this sheds a little light on all of the mystery maybe it confuses things further. Oh, well This is all my opinion. GLTA
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all i can say to tha repost legal is....i think we have proof that there is life after brain death.
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Thats the person that I want to see morgage there house, take all their savings, and spend their last dime to buy all the shares they can get. Hopefully they can do this by next week.
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Well, I have been researching Eton properties???? They were given 30 billion shares from March to Aug. of last year. There address was a business mail box service that no longer lists them. There is no phone listing for Eton properties in Las Vegas nor any business of them.
Then I went to the State listings and found something real cool. There is a different address then the one on the master shareholders list.
DAN LEE Address 1: 7500 W LAKE MEAD #9627 Address 2: City: LAS VEGAS State: NV Zip: 89128
So one might ask, who cares. Well heres the cool connection. Guess what CMKX's address was before claiming the Hot Rod Shops Address. Here is from Yahoos profile of CMKX.
Profile Get Profile for:
CMKM Diamonds Inc 7500 West Lake Mead Boulevard Suite 9627 Las Vegas, NV 89128 Phone: 702-683-3722 Web Site: http://
Ok, here is were it gets interesting, Mirage Chief Financial Officer Dan Lee. Why does Dan Lee have the same address for a temporary company with CMKX? Why would UC be giving him 30 billion shares at a avg. resale of .0005 thats 15 million dollars. Could this be a credit line for the slots? Well, American Choppers is on. Thats the reason I stay up this late.
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Hmmm...wonder when we get to the Kennedy assassination. That has to figure in here somewhere, as they've included just about everyone else.
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stockliens job is to defend CMKX & UC period. guilt has nothing to do with it. stocklien had to write that 8K about the auditor because the auditor wrote the 10a & as with the master list it will get out. best defense is a good offense. there is no client privlage between a auditor & a company. you can bet stocklien will not sue the auditor for being scammed, too much "secret" info would get out. the auditoir saw the scam in dd & probably figured they had a quick $100K's & if cmkx really wanted to come clean the best way to start was a 10A. stocklien says "hey we invited you down to S.A & up to canada to see the work we are doing." what earthly business does an auditor have with seeing those things? you can't audit photo's taken during the trip. you can audit records of costs & incomes from those places but since it seems records are non-existant UC figures pictures will do. frizzy says enough is enough & puts some pressure on informing UC the law says we can walk in & take over unless you get buzy & all of a sudden UC is returning calls. UC owes nevada minerals $2 million. nevada minerals posts on their web site they own the american shaft but UC says its not so. tells frizzy how hard it is getting someone to audit cmkx without records or books & the SEC breathing down our necks & frizzy folds. i'm thinking the cmkx shareholders that are fed up & see all the info from the master list & court transcripts for what they say & not add some made up drivel caused by too much kool-aide to explain it needs to ban together, no lawyer needed, just sign a form, send it to the nevada state board. have enough ppl to reach 15% which shouldn't be too hard to find & take over. force the info out completely. i'm betting for under $25K a group could get all the proof needed to take UC to jail. past owners can't join in but i'm betting they would help pay, i would. enough of the scammin, crooked prison guard. send his azz back where he belongs only in the cell not walkin the halls.
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Urban Casavant, I am speaking directly to you. You blew it buddy. You and I are going to have a face to face. Be a man and contact me.
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In my opinion, Urban Casavant isn't worth the crap on the bottom of your boots. I believe the law will catch up to him eventually so you need not put yourself in legal jeopardy.
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I can only dream about owning a house like that.
And on a golf course, too. Man, I would be in ecztasy 24/7.
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a lot of cmkx owners have got to be having reality sink in. no company runs its mouth for a yr about filing only they have no books or records of any transactions. no real company has 2 auditors get fed up with the crap in 6 months. no real company has the type of master list cmkx has with the info it holds. even if the shares numbers were reduced equally to normal scam company numbers say 50 billion or so. the general ledger says no payroll, no money spent drilling yet UC has $15 million to give USCA but can't pay nevada minerals money owed on gold shaft so they give all the unfiltered ore away to pay back moneys. no idea how they will pay the $2 million still owed. the office manager gets at least $4.6 million for her shares & in 2 yrs. $4 million for race cars & UC says the shareholders loved the idea. don't remember seeing the vote on that one. UC has a $3.5 million home. gives brother $1 million for old passed over zinc claims & then only a share of those claims. yet in cmkx books a lot more went for zinc claims then $1 million. in fact a lot more then is recorded for diamond claims. CFO gets $1.5 million in cash and 60 billion shares end up in his company, a company that also includes the $4.6 million office manager & she should have got a lot more then $4.6, thats based on selling for .0002. someone said the only thing missing was sex, well ginger had to be doing something, no paperwork to file & no office to manage. there are $60 million in gem buys for a company that is supposed to be digging up gems not buying them. yet while all these ppl make huge money the investors paying the bills see their pps go from sub-penny to sub-sub- penny. its traded in the 5th digit for gods sake no other company trades in the 5th digit 4th is the normal bottom. ya got a 703 billion o/s and at least a 650 billion float. it took 3 months to find the last auditor & he lasted 7 days & charged $100K. the auditor before him quit because nobody had any records yet the company gave him extra cash because they wanted the audit done fast. a judge revokes the stock & the best they can come up with is "thats not true". forgetting that everything says it is true, they have had 6 months & still have no records to even start an audit. i bet if you got 15% of the o/s together demanding whatever records are there & telling UC to shove his con game UC would double the o/s that day but it sure would be nice to try. just walk in with the papers & shove them in stockliens face.
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I swear, the OG, faithful, cult members are so mesmorized they really have no idea of reality. It is almost as though a spell has been cast upon them. Where the hell is Harry Potter when he is needed? It is just too damn easy for them to believe everything under the sun. A true sign of extremely shallow minds.
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Wonder why the faithful haven't talked about the fact the proposal was not sent. Even if it was because they had problems with the accountant, they lead Frizzell and so the cult in believing it was sent. And of course the koolaid drinkers excused the SEC of fool play because the revocation came out right afterwards. And the whole time they never seen the proposal. How funny. Yet they believe everything else. Like the company has been so forth right so far, lol. As I said all alone, it is a BLAME GAME for UC and company. Blame everyone else in hope they don't figure out who the real crook is.
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(By Gayle Essary, Publisher of FinancialWire / FirstAlert)
The full behind-the-scenes story may never be known, but Dateline NBC apparently plans to air its long-awaited previously postponed "StockGate" story Sunday night at 7 p.m. Eastern Time and Pacific Time, and 6 p.m. Central and Mountain Time. Commercials for the show on CNBC Friday showed Ron Insana holding a copy of the Eagletech Communications (OTC: EATC) annual report, and saying that not all is as it seems.
The show apparently will include interview segments with the company's attorney, Wes Christian of Christian Smith & Jewell (http://www.csj-law.com) , which works with the more famous John P. O'Quinn, of O'Quinn, Laminack & Pirtle (http://www.oqlaw.com), and possibly will include a look at illegal naked short sales that the attorneys clam are associated with problems for shareholders at Eagletech, Jag Notes (OTC: JAGH) and others.
Compared to the original announced airing in February, this "possibly revamped" show is coming in almost in stealth mode. As of Saturday, Dateline's website, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600 , still had no mention of this segment, which now appears to be the second feature instead of the first. It is not known if the story has been whittled down from an hour, or if the current length was always planned.
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Well, if Stockgate is on tonight, someone should tell NBC about it...
Dateline NBC
SUNDAY, JULY 31 - 7:00 PM ET
Dateline tells the story of two parents who started off as bitter adversaries on opposite sides of a courtroom. However, after a sudden twist of fate, they come together to fight for the same thing: justice for both of their sons. Hoda Kotb reports.
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Yeah, what's up with the "stealth mode"... is it,or isn't it on?I see that the show is 2 hrs long tonight.Surly they aren't just talking about the above for a whole 2 hrs.
Dateline NBC airs Fridays (8pm ET) and Sundays (7pm ET). Viewers can call 1-866-NBC-TAPE for NBC News transcripts and tapes of selected Dateline segments.
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quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: Yesterday I lost my temper with the U/C situation. I may of come accross in a manner suggesting a confrontation other than verbal.. This is not what I intended....
I want a verbal conversation with him, I believe he atleast owes me that as a ripped off shareholder, more specificly bagholder in my opinion.
That house just plain put me over the top.. Man, when we look at that, and what it represents any warm blooded human being would come un-glued with anger..
Verbal anger OK, but I in no way endorce or want to incite anything other than that.
As Wallace says, the SOB just ain't worth it. So we let the courts deal with him and hope there is justice swiftly and meaningfully administerd.
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Dustoff, you may want to wait for the final facts in this matter. The fact that a handful of posters here have already indicted and convicted Urban, does not make it fact that he has done anything wrong.
This is fact. As much as CMKX has been investigated, no criminal charges have been preferred. The best they have come up with is failure to file.
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Legal, I would guess the non filing was the easiest course to go after. Time will tell on criminal charges. But unfortunately in the real world these crooked CEO's get off all the time. It takes a national news event to see justice. Because really if every crooked CEO was put on trial for what they deserve then they would have to go to some state like Montana to get the open spaces needed to build that many court houses just to try them all.
But really when 50K people find out the truth, then UC will hope he gets jail for the protection. I think that CMKX will be taken over soon. Because there will be no change. It will be revoked. You will never hear the truth from UC and Frizzell will have to force in new management. Then the real truth will be known. Thats when criminal charges will happen.
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legaleagle, so many of us have so many differant reasons for posting on this thread, it is mind numbing to try and figure out, who is who, and what is what.
Yes, you are right, when we convict because of a personal agenda, we are all heading for big trouble.
Legal, when U/C told us to hang on because of the dividends coming, I stayed. I did so under a feeling of duress.
My thinking is your wasting your great talents on a man who is not worthy..
If you are an attorney and are just fighting the good fight, for the condemned man, well,you have my respect.
One of the strange twists in all of this, is, I think you and Wallace could be on the same team on other matters....................
Well, the drama moves on, good luck and good health to both of you old titans!!!!
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legal, did you read stockliens letter to the last auditor??? the part about the SEC wanting to find certain ppl connected to cmkx? i'd say thats an indication the investigation is not over. they have it revoked, step 1. now its time to gather criminal charges, step 2.
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Originally posted by glassman: then i guess you will be really ticked when you find out how many times he laid down a heavy bet on six the hard way .
------------------------------------------------- Instigator!! Now you've gone and got me blowing my stack again...
Anybody betting with my money on a hard 6 is a damn fool!!
Thats a suckers bet!
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If I was him, I would be dropping a bundle in the nearby Federal prison to get it upgraded with private cell. Bubba may like that big smile of UC's.
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