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dang, obviously the base was far from solid: metals are getting torched today worse than chris gamble did trying to cover braylon edwards!
i did eventually find the BTP ad on kitco, NP: seems to come up ~ every once for every 10 times i visit there

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This is one of those days when you wonder why you ever started playing this game.

Anyway, the correction in gold is still less than the one in early 2003. Look at a 5 year chart.
As for palladium, who knows.
I am sure glad BTP has the Idaho property!!!

As Robert Bishop said,(Gold Mining Stock Report) it is tax time in Canada,(April 30 deadline) lots of resource investors made money in 2003 doing some selling, yet kept their money in the market buying other resource stocks, which are down now, so many people are having to pay taxes even though at this point in time, they are losing money over the past year. OUCH!!!!

Today, Octagon is a big buyer again. They bought a block of 3,000,000 in Feb. and they
were buying last week as well.
Octagon deals with mutual funds and more sophisticated investors.(wealthy)
BTP has not yet officially closed their first financing, which is strange. It is in their interest to do so, because there is a 4 month hold period from the date of official closure.
If it closed this week, those 10 million shares would not be free trading until late August.



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NP: You obviously know much more than me about the industry, so I don't have any idea about financings and which houses are doing buying and all that. I don't know how to decouple the possible effects of a financing with the plunge of metals when it comes to BTP's crash lately. Unfortunately, metals are crashing again: Pt/Pd down to 767/230 - ouch. I just hope BTP can hold it's chin above .20 while metals find a stable bottom, and that BTP will get moving starting to dig soon.
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Yes blue, I have been following the mining game for twenty years. I know what people to avoid.
BTP is a real company with real talent and real geologists. These guys did not become a hi-tech company during the boom, like so many other "mining" companies. Also, when I see a company hang on to properties for years, that is a good sign.
(It looks like gold has made a reversal today, I think we have hit bottom.)
I am still incredibly bullish on BTP, and with the recent fall in gold stocks, there are other good buys.
May is near, and I hear things will happen then.


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What's this BTP, I've never heard of it?


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NP, what is your guess on what BTP is doing re: the new financing? Looks like from what you've said won't be at least 4 months until the old one closes.

Also, what's your guess on how this affects BTP's summer? Are they going to be just vaguely "exploring" - ie taking some aerial survey buyt otherwise mostly having a daily decision between Dunkin Donuts or Krispy Kreme? Or are they going to be actually pulling out the heavy equipment and getting their hands dirty and actually doing some drilling and maybe even production plans?

Their latest PR speaks of a "core drilling program" in 2Q 2004 in the Idaho properties. They are still "planning" about Stillwater, to start in 3Q. Why 3Q, why wait until July - doesn't seem like "weather and accessibility" would be an issue in May and June? Does this just imply that they are simply planning on focusing on Idaho before Stillwater?


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First, with recpect to the 10,000,000 share financing, all I meant was that it could close anyday now, but the owners of those shares will not be able to sell until 120 days later.
(The money has probably already been forwarded to the company).
To do a comprehensive drill program like they are planning, they will need min. $5M Cdn.
Something will happen, SOON!!!

Now, with Montana. Believe it or not, Southern Alberta and Montana can get wicked snowstorms until early June. Two years ago the Americans had to close the border because of a snowstorm, it was June7.
The Stillwater complex had a major snowstorm in 2002, on June 20. If they get snowed in, it becomes really expensive because you still have to pay the crew to wait. Remember, they are about 2000 feet higher than Denver.

BTP is moving forward, the reason for the financing delay could be that they are raising lots of money and the participants in the financing are short of cash because of the resource market decline.

If the stock was trading at $1.00 now and the insiders were dumping shares, I would be worried.
The insiders and their cronies own over 30,000,000 shares, they are not selling at this price and volume.

Also, if they come up with the goods in Idaho, they will be able to do another financing, at much higher prices.

[This message has been edited by northernprophet (edited May 01, 2004).]


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What I would like to see BTP do to unlock the value here, is split BTP in 2 different companies; one for the Montana PGM properties, and another for the Idaho gold properties.
That is what will happen anyway if a discovery is made in either Idaho and/or Montana.

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thanks for the info, NP. I went through Montana briefly 2-3 years back in June and it wasn't too cold, but you're right I was forgetting about the altitude part of the equation.
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No news on BTP, the boards are dead on most gold/metals stocks.
I can't believe the wipeout we have had in the metals sector.
These stocks represent the best value on the market right now.
Greenspan left rates unchanged today.
He could raise rates by 150 basis points and they would still be accomodative.(EEEasy money)
Bill Gross, manager of PIMCO, the largest bond fund in rhe world, thinks inflation is up and running.
Gold agrees!!

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BTP still under 30 cents.
Everything is still moving forward.
They will drill. Now who will finance them?
They have had 5 months to figure it out.

I do not know what the next NR will say, but the fact that there is no promo going on is a good thing.(except for a pop-up on kitco)
(This group has the ability to get BTP in the papers and on TV, and get analysts on their side)

Bharti and McCarvill could raise $5M for BTP in their sleep. I do not know what the delay is for.

Hopefully the US employment report in an hour won't knock the stuffing out of gold.


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It looks like the 10,000,000 share financing has closed this week, although there was no announcement yet.
BTP now officially has 59,688,571 shares outstanding. That is official!!!
Things can finally go forward.
I like it when insiders load up on cheap shares.
Ownership:
Forbes Manhattan Group: 20 million
Sterling securities: 6-7 million
Resources Investment Trust 6 million
Ted Tomasovich 2.5 million
Del Steiner 2.5 million
john Andrews 400,000
Now, the big financing, hopefully at much higher prices.

I am hearing all sorts of rumours, but there may be a disinformation campaign going on.
One story is that there will be a property acquisition for a property that has near term revenue potential.
2 former directors who still own shares were bigwigs with Inco. Inco likes mammoth properties, not small ones that could be company builders for one the size of BTP.
FNX mining, (tse,amex) got their start with a "gift" property from Inco.

We'll see, BTP already has 2 great properties.

Like I thought would happen, gold took it on the chin today. It is still at a good enough price that quality discoveries will be rewarded .



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thanks for the updates, NP - still holding and hoping for some drilling and a good PR or two this month to at least get back into the .30's
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BTP is on the verge of a breakout.
Look at the trades today at www.st***watch.com
TSX 100 index bought 90,000 shares.
Go look for yourself.
Buyer Seller
50,000 100TSX Golden Capital
40,000 100TSX Golden Capital
I can't figure it out.

Also ,a massive short position was made in the stock 2 Thursdays ago when BMO Nesbitt was selling all those shares.
645,000 shares. Just reported last week.
I posted it on stockh****. com, on Saturday.
Don't be worried !!! I have seen this many times before a financing.

For the Canadians, the short positions for all Cdn stocks are in the Globe&Mail and Financial post today. (if over 50,000 shares)

Last chance to buy this cheapie.

[This message has been edited by northernprophet (edited May 11, 2004).]


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all metals up sharply overseas, would be nice to have an up day and actually hold it. am waiting for BTP's next update - last was March 25 - that says that they are actively drilling, would be nice to see
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The annual meeting will occur in Toronto on June 25.
Everyone should get the annual report and documents in early June.
Computershare describes the meeting as "non-routine". I do not know if that means anything.

The trading pattern of the last few days looks good; lots of blocks of 30,000-50000 shares changing hands. Not retail, strictly pros.
I admit to getting impatient and slightly frustrated, but my enthusiasm for this stock has not waned one bit!!

The TSX 100 again bought more shares in BTP today. 25,000 at 32 cents. This will be posted on stockwatch until midnight.

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Is that a misprint, or am I confused? I don't know what 100 TSX means, but - why would they buy at .32 when the ask was .27? (also, everywhere the close is shown as .27)

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TSX 100 is the exchange seat.
TSX Venture, or TSX (Formerly Toronto Stock Exchange)
Both of Canada's stock exchanges are owned by the same group. The TSX.
In a definition I read, TSX 100 means TSX buy-ins (CDS).
I do not know what CDS stands for.

This is all new to me as well, I have never seen this before.

I have no idea why they are buying above market, and their trades do not show up until the end of the trading day.

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This article is over 8 months old, but it is still valid:

THE GLOBE AND MAIL
Tuesday, August 26, 2003
Palladium Looking To Buy Assets, by Lynne Oliver
North American Palladium Ltd., which operates a single mine in northwestern Ontario, is looking to acquire other assets that add value to the company, president and chief executive officer Andre Douchane says.
Although palladium makes up about 75 per cent of the company's income, it also produces platinum, gold, nickel and copper from the Lac des Iles mine northwest of Thunder Bay, Ont.
"We are actively looking for opportunities in the precious metals area," Mr. Douchane said, adding that the company's financial picture should be stronger by year-end as it pays down debt.
"We've begun just recently to look for opportunity, and we've not really restricted it to platinum/palladium," he said. For example, "in Canada, there are nickel-copper ore bodies with high PGEs in them," he said, referring to platinum group elements.
The small company isn't looking solely at potential deals in Canada and the United States, but "it would take a pretty good project for us to enter a country outside of North America," Mr. Douchane said.
The company's share price suffered earlier this year from a severe slide in the price of palladium, which is used primarily in automobile catalytic converters. Palladium has dropped to about $200 (U.S.) an ounce from $1100 in 2001, when car manufacturers were stockpiling huge amounts. Meanwhile, the price of platinum - another metal used in automobiles, electronics and jewelry fabrication - has risen to about $700 an ounce . There is historically a differential of about $100 to $150 an ounce between the two metals.
However, Mr. Douchane said the spot price can be misleading: most palladium is sold under long-term contracts at prices above the thinly traded spot price. North American Palladium's contracts have a floor price of $325 an ounce until 2005 and competitor Stillwater Mining Co. of Columbus, Mont., also sells above
$300 an ounce, Mr. Douchane said.
He expects palladium prices to rise in the next 12 to 18 months, as the differential between platinum and palladium reverts closer to normal and car makers work through their inventories.
"We really expect to see the palladium market come back to that $300 to $375 range by 2005," Mr. Douchane said


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Fiiiiinnnaaaalllllllyyy!!!!
Drilling has commenced in Idaho.
Check the NR today.

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while it'd be nicer if they didn't tank 11% on news, glad to hear they are finally moving! not sure of what all that technical jargon means, i have to admit. go find the goods, boys!
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increasing signs that metals may have found a bottom. sure to be some volatility as the US dollar bounces around, but - it's starting to seem like the worst of the recent metals selloff may be over for the short term. all metals up sharply this morning, now let's hope BTP can at least get up to the upper-.20's and find some support there, instead of immediately giving up any gains the day after an uptick day like it's been going lately. we'll see, should be interesting.

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Hey NP,

I remeber you talking about Cannacord, I thought everything you said was positive,

I'm just wondering if there's anything negative we need to know about.

Something about a mine or mines in Papa NuGini...

Thanks in advance...


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Hey Guy's and Girl's,

MSDEF .18 Take a look

Come join us on the "Hot Stocks" board

$805 million in ore


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Gregdogg, I am not sure I understand your
question.
Regarding Canaccord and BTP, Graeme Currie, (Canaccord's Mining analyst) is a shareholder of BTP. He bought into a private placement in 2002.
Also, Pacific Int'l is a shareholder of BTP.
Regarding Papua New Guinea, you must have me confused with someone else. I do not follow any companies with land over there.

Gregdogg,
Are you talking about hotst****.com. Is that a good site? Any other good boards/sites you know that are not that well known?

In Montana anyway, BTP has over 18,000 feet of the J-M reef on their property, and 1500 feet is enough to make a mine. Not all 18000 feet may be minable but they must have 1500 feet.
Believe me, if BTP put a well laid out full page ad in the Northern Miner or Bull& Bear, it would trade near $1.
The really good situations are not flogged to the public.
Look at Aber, no analysts were talking about it at $7-$12, yet they were recommending it at $40.

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Hello NP, I knew you'd answer, Thanks.

When I say "Hot Stocks" board, I mean the board here at AllStocks....LOL

That's funny though, cuz ************* does excist... They have PSH as their pick...lol

My question was just a vaugue question in relation to Cannacord...

We're looking at buying into a company that deals with Cannacord, so I was looking for your opinion on them and their credibility.

The stock is MDSEF, it's otcbb.

Thanks for the info. Gotta go, I've been here 8 hours.....jeeeshhhh



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Madison Enterprises, that must be the same one that trades in Canada.MNP
I was going to buy them in 2002 because Sprott and Goldcorp were in on a financing.

Peter Brown is the head of Canaccord and the most powerful man in Canadian junior stocks.
He is a multimillionaire and will be a megamillionaire when Canaccord goes public in a few months.He drives around Vancouver in a limo or his Rolls.

Canaccord is Canada's largest independent brokerage house, Manulife financial owns 20%.
Canaccord is known for its entreprenurial brokers.
Canaccord has worked with BTP in the past.


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Thanks NP, your one smart cookie....lol
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BTP is really trying my patience. Metals up, gold sharply up, SWC/PAL up ~4%, other juniors like BZA up, so logically: BTP down to .24 so far today.
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Yes, blue, I agree. It is frustrating to see some piece of garbage go up and BTP do nothing.
But BTP is doing no promotion at all. In one of our national newspapers today there was an insert with ads about lots of penny stocks, none of which I would buy.
BTP is real. They have the goods.



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Finished @ .23 got be getting near a bottom. They certainly dont do a great deal of advertising and promotion do they?
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has been ugly, now back near 200-day MA:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=BTP.V&t=1y&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=m200,m100&a=&c=

would like to see these guys actually start drilling in Montana, although the only effect of news of them starting to drill in Idaho was that the stock tanked another 15%


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metals looking strong again this morning, can we at least get this baby back to .25 today?
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I think we have finally turned the corner.
Metals up nicely today,and BTP firming up.
The bid is 2 1/2 cents higher than yesterday.
It is a long weekend in Canada, so we'll see how BTP does on Tuesday.

I asked a tech analysis guru I know to analyze BTP.
He looked at the 10 year chart and saw a downtrend line from the high of over $4.00 in 96 to $2.50 in 2000 to $1.90 in 2001 all the way down to 45-48 cents today.
He said if it breaks through 50 cents on strong volume it will be a major turning point and confirm the new long bullish trend.

So far today, the exchange (TSX 100)has bought another 75000 shares.

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good day for metals and mining shares yesterday, and gold/platinum up sharply again this morning. would be nice if BTP can hold the gains of last week and continue inching towards .30, we will see
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