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10,
I sure hope my post to Soruce , didn't upset you.I just get sooo mad that some that were involved in all of this "seem" to be getting away with no problems.
As far as the "other" board, you probably got me banned LOL or at least tarred and feathered. After reading your post, I had to go check , of course, AND told them to leave you alone. Oh well, I just got re-instated and most ignore me anyhow.I hope they don't ban me, but if they do, they do. You are the sweetest poster out there and just had to spread that word. [Smile]

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Well, 10, you and I are both "out of there"
They could have at least let me send the post that I spent 4 minutes replying too. *sigh*

I was trying to explain my "words"
I think I pushed it when I said "hmmmm, guess I'm not invisible" because I sure got some replies.
Usually I was ignored.

Sorry Mr,C [Confused]

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Are you sure you were banned?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
Well, 10, you and I are both "out of there"
They could have at least let me send the post that I spent 4 minutes replying too. *sigh*

I was trying to explain my "words"
I think I pushed it when I said "hmmmm, guess I'm not invisible" because I sure got some replies.
Usually I was ignored.

Sorry Mr,C [Confused]

There is a lot of pressure over there....and a lot of people who dont know each other and for obvious reasons are having trouble trusting one another. If you got banned im assuming someone got trigger happy after 10s post. I cant imagine what other reason there would be.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
I personally would like the person or people that made a lot of money off of this ( by pumping and dumping, not day traders) pay for this.

Source, you always make it sound like only one person did all this. Shouldn't the guilty pay?
We may or may not ever know , who all the "bad" guys were, but I still believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty. If and when we know, I'll keep my condemnation to myself. IMO

I personally lay 90% of the blame on Dufus's shoulders . He's the one that was in charge . He's the one that told everyone to "buy the crap out of it" . He's the one that was late with the filings for the SEC . He's the one that didn't comply with the SEC before it was halted . He's the one that wanted this to go to court to begin with and he's the fu<king moron that didn't even show up with an attorney when it did go to court . He's the one that started that stupid azz board for all the cult members to console each other on and he's the one that still to this day is making up one exuse after another for who's to blame and why all these people lost a lot of money .

So ya , I guess I do blame him .I don't recall anyone else putting out bogus PR's , filing false docs with the SEC or going on SPR running their mouths .

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quote:
Originally posted by thesource:
quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
I personally would like the person or people that made a lot of money off of this ( by pumping and dumping, not day traders) pay for this.

Source, you always make it sound like only one person did all this. Shouldn't the guilty pay?
We may or may not ever know , who all the "bad" guys were, but I still believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty. If and when we know, I'll keep my condemnation to myself. IMO

I personally lay 90% of the blame on Dufus's shoulders . He's the one that was in charge . He's the one that told everyone to "buy the crap out of it" . He's the one that was late with the filings for the SEC . He's the one that didn't comply with the SEC before it was halted . He's the one that wanted this to go to court to begin with and he's the fu<king moron that didn't even show up with an attorney when it did go to court . He's the one that started that stupid azz board for all the cult members to console each other on and he's the one that still to this day is making up one exuse after another for who's to blame and why all these people lost a lot of money .

So ya , I guess I do blame him .I don't recall anyone else putting out bogus PR's , filing false docs with the SEC or going on SPR running their mouths .

CEOTA turned out to be bunk so any LOI's Fronthaul may have PR'd regarding some sort of deal with CEOTA are also bunk. If you look back far enough you can find that LOI. Oh, and there was an interview with Mike Alexander and Gordon Brown (man behind CEOTA) that went on and on about the Log Deal...failing to mention the company was going bankrupt.

Back the bus up there and take another look....there are other people you may want to take a look at. [Smile]

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no doubt...

ALL the principals are accountable: Alexander et al hooked up with Corey, and Harris et al took the baton.

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Does the name Tut ring a bell?


quote:
Originally posted by thesource:
quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
I personally would like the person or people that made a lot of money off of this ( by pumping and dumping, not day traders) pay for this.

Source, you always make it sound like only one person did all this. Shouldn't the guilty pay?
We may or may not ever know , who all the "bad" guys were, but I still believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty. If and when we know, I'll keep my condemnation to myself. IMO

I personally lay 90% of the blame on Dufus's shoulders . He's the one that was in charge . He's the one that told everyone to "buy the crap out of it" . He's the one that was late with the filings for the SEC . He's the one that didn't comply with the SEC before it was halted . He's the one that wanted this to go to court to begin with and he's the fu<king moron that didn't even show up with an attorney when it did go to court . He's the one that started that stupid azz board for all the cult members to console each other on and he's the one that still to this day is making up one exuse after another for who's to blame and why all these people lost a lot of money .

So ya , I guess I do blame him .I don't recall anyone else putting out bogus PR's , filing false docs with the SEC or going on SPR running their mouths .


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quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
Does the name Tut ring a bell?


quote:
Originally posted by thesource:
quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
I personally would like the person or people that made a lot of money off of this ( by pumping and dumping, not day traders) pay for this.

Source, you always make it sound like only one person did all this. Shouldn't the guilty pay?
We may or may not ever know , who all the "bad" guys were, but I still believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty. If and when we know, I'll keep my condemnation to myself. IMO

I personally lay 90% of the blame on Dufus's shoulders . He's the one that was in charge . He's the one that told everyone to "buy the crap out of it" . He's the one that was late with the filings for the SEC . He's the one that didn't comply with the SEC before it was halted . He's the one that wanted this to go to court to begin with and he's the fu<king moron that didn't even show up with an attorney when it did go to court . He's the one that started that stupid azz board for all the cult members to console each other on and he's the one that still to this day is making up one exuse after another for who's to blame and why all these people lost a lot of money .

So ya , I guess I do blame him .I don't recall anyone else putting out bogus PR's , filing false docs with the SEC or going on SPR running their mouths .


Oh yea....and Arlitt too. I have no idea what "exactly" he did wrong but im pretty sure he had to have broken SOME law.
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LOL good ol TUT....

Jeez can't believe I got snowed by a guy named TUT let alone Rufus.

For some strange reason I think TUT really believed what he was saying.

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Surfer,
LOL, you don't really believe that TUT was serious do you? I know you didn't get that snowed.

Just having fun.Please don't take this as a slam,
It's not.

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No Stock momma...it wasn't your post...just "RPH's little games"...and yes I am banned from RPH's site...I don't know how that would get you banned...but if you were trying to "stick up for me"...I wish you wouldn't have...it doesn't matter...I feel better after posting that and as I said before...if that long winded post made just one poster snap out of their trance? I'm glad...

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10,
You have a p.m. my dear.

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10 you got banned? sheesh. they must be nazi's over there...

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Has RPH posted since the new court thing came out?
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Haha..thanks glass...I don't know what was said after I posted...but a get a very polite message when I go to the site...
"sorry you are banned from this site"
Go figure... [Roll Eyes] [Eek!] [Razz]
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10 you got banned? sheesh. they must be nazi's over there...

Igor..heposted some smiley faces and said very little...

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I don't really hold much against TUT other than he's full of crap . The damage was done way before he became CEO and up until then , he was just a pumper and a damn stupid sounding one at that . I never bought into his crap , infact that should have been good enough reason to get out of the stock itself .

Hind site is 20/20 but I am definately a much smarter trader from the crap .

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btw?
on the NSing issue? did you guys see this?

October 26, 2007, 2:17 pm
Federal Judge Tells SEC Lawyer “Sit Down, Shut Up”
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northcarolinaJudge Graham Mullen on Wednesday dismissed part of an SEC civil lawsuit alleging that a former executive at Friedman Billings Ramsey engaged in illegal conduct related to a securities offering. The claim alleged that John Mangan Jr. committed a so-called Section 5 violation involving a Pipe, or private investment in public equity. Representing Mangan: George Covington of King & Spalding in Charlotte and James Wyatt at Wyatt & Blake. Said Wyatt to the Observer: “We firmly believe (the case) will be resolved in his favor because we believe he has done absolutely nothing wrong.”

While the case is interesting — especially for those of you obsessed with the controversy surrounding Pipes and naked short selling — what’s interesting to us is this excerpt from the transcript of Wednesday’s oral argument on Mangan’s motion to dismiss.

Judge Mullen: Naked shorts are not legal, are they?

SEC lawyer Amy Greer: No. No, they’re just very risky, Your Honor.

SEC lawyer Catherine Pappas: And Your Honor –

Judge Mullen: They’re not illegal; they’re just risky.

Greer: Correct. Naked short sales are not illegal; they’re just risky, Your Honor.

Judge Mullen: Why in the world don’t you all make them illegal? Don’t you understand what happens in the market when you allow naked short selling to attack companies? I mean, do you understand that?

Greer: Your Honor, I think that that’s an issue for the United States Congress. I appreciate your concern –

Judge Mullen: Well –

Greer: — and I –

Judge Mullen: — the answer to my question is, yeah, I understand it or, no, I don’t.

Greer: I do understand your –

Judge Mullen: Do not try — okay.

Greer: I do understand, Your Honor.

Judge Mullen: Thank you for understanding it.

Covington: Your Honor, one thing –

Judge Mullen: Excuse the interruption.

Covington: No, sir.

Judge Mullen: Sit down, shut up, let the man talk. I’m not going to let him introduce (sic) you. Last warning.

Pappas: I’m sorry?

Judge Mullen: Sit down –

Pappas: Yeah, I got that.

Judge Mullen: — shut up, let the man talk. Last warning.

Pappas: Okay.

Judge Mullen: Understood?

Pappas: Okay.

Judge Mullen: Excellent.

Covington: With all due respect, Your Honor –

Judge: And you don’t interrupt her when she’s talking.

Covington: Yes, sir.

Judge: Proceed.

“Sit down, shut up, let the man talk”? Wow. Readers, what do you make of the exchange?
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IMO? it's not something Congress should have to address.... there are laws against counterfeiting... it seems to me the laws just need to be interpreted properly...

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Its just like gun laws and gun control . The laws are there , they need to be enforced instead of just making more and more laws .

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
btw?
on the NSing issue? did you guys see this?

October 26, 2007, 2:17 pm
Federal Judge Tells SEC Lawyer “Sit Down, Shut Up”
Posted by Peter Lattman

northcarolinaJudge Graham Mullen on Wednesday dismissed part of an SEC civil lawsuit alleging that a former executive at Friedman Billings Ramsey engaged in illegal conduct related to a securities offering. The claim alleged that John Mangan Jr. committed a so-called Section 5 violation involving a Pipe, or private investment in public equity. Representing Mangan: George Covington of King & Spalding in Charlotte and James Wyatt at Wyatt & Blake. Said Wyatt to the Observer: “We firmly believe (the case) will be resolved in his favor because we believe he has done absolutely nothing wrong.”

While the case is interesting — especially for those of you obsessed with the controversy surrounding Pipes and naked short selling — what’s interesting to us is this excerpt from the transcript of Wednesday’s oral argument on Mangan’s motion to dismiss.

Judge Mullen: Naked shorts are not legal, are they?

SEC lawyer Amy Greer: No. No, they’re just very risky, Your Honor.

SEC lawyer Catherine Pappas: And Your Honor –

Judge Mullen: They’re not illegal; they’re just risky.

Greer: Correct. Naked short sales are not illegal; they’re just risky, Your Honor.

Judge Mullen: Why in the world don’t you all make them illegal? Don’t you understand what happens in the market when you allow naked short selling to attack companies? I mean, do you understand that?

Greer: Your Honor, I think that that’s an issue for the United States Congress. I appreciate your concern –

Judge Mullen: Well –

Greer: — and I –

Judge Mullen: — the answer to my question is, yeah, I understand it or, no, I don’t.

Greer: I do understand your –

Judge Mullen: Do not try — okay.

Greer: I do understand, Your Honor.

Judge Mullen: Thank you for understanding it.

Covington: Your Honor, one thing –

Judge Mullen: Excuse the interruption.

Covington: No, sir.

Judge Mullen: Sit down, shut up, let the man talk. I’m not going to let him introduce (sic) you. Last warning.

Pappas: I’m sorry?

Judge Mullen: Sit down –

Pappas: Yeah, I got that.

Judge Mullen: — shut up, let the man talk. Last warning.

Pappas: Okay.

Judge Mullen: Understood?

Pappas: Okay.

Judge Mullen: Excellent.

Covington: With all due respect, Your Honor –

Judge: And you don’t interrupt her when she’s talking.

Covington: Yes, sir.

Judge: Proceed.

“Sit down, shut up, let the man talk”? Wow. Readers, what do you make of the exchange?
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IMO? it's not something Congress should have to address.... there are laws against counterfeiting... it seems to me the laws just need to be interpreted properly...

everybody should be sure to read the comments there, you know? below the post...

Except is safe to ignore that one guy...the whiner about his law degree, not enough dough...

WHATever [Roll Eyes]

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loyola whiner? LOL..

i beleive the judge is correct to tell people to STFU... it's his/her courtroom.. that PC crap about being polite is more whining...


the court of law is supposed 2b adversarial, and the judge is the referee...

the referees on the feild throw the flag too...
and now thank God, they do instant replay too.. [Roll Eyes]

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LOL
I love that!!
Sit down, shut up

LOL , just love that!

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quote:
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loyola whiner? LOL..

i beleive the judge is correct to tell people to STFU... it's his/her courtroom.. that PC crap about being polite is more whining...


the court of law is supposed 2b adversarial, and the judge is the referee...

the referees on the feild throw the flag too...
and now thank God, they do instant replay too.. [Roll Eyes]

ya... that guy...

jeez "the point" is the market...somehow he wants it to be about his " " " salary " " "

I would take a piece of a break, here [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Surfer,
LOL, you don't really believe that TUT was serious do you? I know you didn't get that snowed.

Just having fun.Please don't take this as a slam,
It's not.

LOL [Big Grin] [Big Grin] ... No momma, I was already in neck deep before he was in the picture.

The lessons I learned in CSHD will carry me through a lifetime of investing.

Thats the way I prefer to look at it.

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quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
No Stock momma...it wasn't your post...just "RPH's little games"...and yes I am banned from RPH's site...I don't know how that would get you banned...but if you were trying to "stick up for me"...I wish you wouldn't have...it doesn't matter...I feel better after posting that and as I said before...if that long winded post made just one poster snap out of their trance? I'm glad...

Not to worry all good who decide to ask pertinent questions instead of joining the love feast get banned.

I got banned months ago for having the audacity to ask what happened to the proxy that was promised way back in Feb.

All it takes to get banned is to have a mind and ask or state legitimate concerns.

10 I think your post was completely on point and therefore since it could not be refuted culminated in your banning. Welcome to the club.

It's amazing how anyone could think that yesterday's ruling was part of the plan or a good thing for shareholders. Wait I take that back, the only good thing will be the end to the circus and playing on the emotions of those that refuse to see the writing on the wall.

I feel bad for all that were deceived and lost more than they could afford to lose. But I fell worse for the people that were fed lie after lie to boost their loyality.

Maybe Rufus isn't the main crook but he is responsible for failing to come through on any promise he made. Starting before the SEC action and all the way through to yesterday.

At one time a lawyer was promised but never happened. Then the Proxy, then the RICO windfall and the share swap and on and on.

Though Rufus may not have gained, which is still to be determined, he did give many false hope and promised things that he could not deliver.

The good that came from this on a personal level was the many individuals that I met due to FHAL/CSHD. From Tex and Glass to 10 of 13, Bilgert, Betting Babe, A surfer, Pcola and so many more. People that I know were not involved in any pump and dump, never stooped to insulting others and were always working to help others make money in this crazy market.

All those that I have had the pleasure of interacting with, and if I didn't mention you please don't fell slighted, since it would take thread upon thread to list every one, is what I will always take with me. I will shake the negative off and leave it where it belongs, on file for future reference when a similar play happens and remember the earnest people who spent hour upon hour finding DD and deciphering what could be gleaned from that DD. These were selfless acts of teamwork that I will always treasure.

Thank You One and All

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Hey Wally!
You posted:
"The good that came from this on a personal level was the many individuals that I met due to FHAL/CSHD..."

And from my prior long winded rant:

"For those of you that have lost and those that have suffered...take comfort in knowing that you have been rewarded in other ways..."

"other ways"...the people that we have "met" and corresponded with...the large amount of "DDing" skills that have been perfected...and the many other lessons...the reward may not have been complete financial freedom...but it has been a "lucrative" experience for myself and many others!

When you have lemons..make Kool-aid I mean...lemonade! [Big Grin]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
I personally would like the person or people that made a lot of money off of this ( by pumping and dumping, not day traders) pay for this.

Source, you always make it sound like only one person did all this. Shouldn't the guilty pay?
We may or may not ever know , who all the "bad" guys were, but I still believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty. If and when we know, I'll keep my condemnation to myself. IMO

I personally lay 90% of the blame on Dufus's shoulders . He's the one that was in charge . He's the one that told everyone to "buy the crap out of it" . He's the one that was late with the filings for the SEC . He's the one that didn't comply with the SEC before it was halted . He's the one that wanted this to go to court to begin with and he's the fu<king moron that didn't even show up with an attorney when it did go to court . He's the one that started that stupid azz board for all the cult members to console each other on and he's the one that still to this day is making up one exuse after another for who's to blame and why all these people lost a lot of money .

So ya , I guess I do blame him .I don't recall anyone else putting out bogus PR's , filing false docs with the SEC or going on SPR running their mouths .

Dude, you are the biggest ****ing moron i see posting here..you have no clue...just watch.
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Dude...

the stock or the company. No blasting fellow posters...

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stocktrader just has sand in his mangina ....... I'd don't pay much attention to that retard .

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you either, lol

let's play together nicely [Smile]

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My friends, I come to you with a heavy heart......I just received some aweful news & hope that you can give one last prayer...........

I just recieved news that our little cousin Dante lost his battle against cancer this morning.....

Please pray that his parents can find peace....

DANTE WE LOVE YOU STILL BUDDY...........ALWAYS......

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Jenna please accept our prayers for you and your family in your time of loss. Have faith that God still has a purpose for Dante.try to find peace in the fact that Dante has found peace and freedom from pain. only God can love him more than you do.

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Thank you.

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box is full, Jen

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quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
My friends, I come to you with a heavy heart......I just received some aweful news & hope that you can give one last prayer...........

I just recieved news that our little cousin Dante lost his battle against cancer this morning.....

Please pray that his parents can find peace....

DANTE WE LOVE YOU STILL BUDDY...........ALWAYS......


I wanted to post this to you in a PM but your Mail box is full and will probably stay that way do here goes.

I'm very sorry to hear this news. I was pulling for Dante.

Believe that I do understand the loss and the devastating effect it can have. There is no making sense of it just accepting what has happened as difficult as that may be.

I wish you and your entire family the best. I hope that you all can find a way to get past this tragic event.

My heart goes out to you.

Sincerely
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