quote:Originally posted by thinkmoney: 3. Unite the nation - A leader unites - Obama has divided this nation along racial and economic lines far from his promises - you can blame who you want but a leader knows how to unite --
Tex has a point. there are "elements" in the media that will critisize Obama whatever he does, and so far? much of it is simply hot air...
take the olympics- Atlanta, which has a much higher violent crime rate than Chicago hosted the summer Olympics in the 90's.....
Atlanta was SELECTED while George Bush the First was President. i don't recall how much influence he had (or not) on the selection, but nonetheless? it was WELCOMED in America...
Atlanta (the people and businesses) most certailny benefited from the Olympics short term and long term..
what do YOU remember about it? the thing i remember the MOST about the Atlanta Olympics is a (TERRORIST!) bombing
Two people died, and 111 were injured.
the WRONG person was accused and had his life ruined by the accusations...
turns out he was actually a hero and prolly saved a bunch of lives...
then the guy who did it? well, here's the info on him:
After Jewell was cleared, the FBI admitted it had no other suspects, and the investigation made little progress until early 1997, when two more bombings took place at an abortion clinic and a lesbian nightclub, both in the Atlanta area. Similarities in the bomb design allowed investigators to conclude that this was the work of the same perpetrator. One more bombing of an abortion clinic, this time in Birmingham, Alabama, which killed a policeman working as a security guard and seriously injured nurse Emily Lyons, gave the FBI crucial clues including a partial license plate.
The plate and other clues led the FBI to identify Eric Robert Rudolph as a suspect. Rudolph eluded capture and became a fugitive; officials believed he had disappeared into the rugged southern Appalachian Mountains, familiar from his youth. On May 5, 1998, the FBI named him as one of its ten most wanted fugitives and offered a $1,000,000 reward for information leading directly to his arrest. On October 14, 1998, the Department of Justice formally named Rudolph as its suspect in all four bombings.
After more than five years on the run, Rudolph was arrested on May 31, 2003, in Murphy, North Carolina. On April 8, 2005, the government announced Rudolph would plead guilty to all four bombings, including the Centennial Olympic Park attack.
Rudolph is serving four life terms without the possibility of parole at ADX Florence supermax prison in Florence, Colorado. To be spared a possible death sentence, Rudolph agreed to a deal with federal prosecutors and revealed the whereabouts of dangerous explosives he buried in Cherokee County, N.C.[7]
Rudolph's justification for the bombings according to his April 13, 2005 statement, was political:
In the summer of 1996, the world converged upon Atlanta for the Olympic Games. Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Multinational corporations spent billions of dollars, and Washington organized an army of security to protect these best of all games. Even though the conception and purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is to promote the values of global socialism, as perfectly expressed in the song Imagine by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these despicable ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27 was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand.
The plan was to force the cancellation of the Games, or at least create a state of insecurity to empty the streets around the venues and thereby eat into the vast amounts of money invested.
On August 22, 2005, Rudolph, who had previously received a life sentence for the Alabama bombing, was sentenced to three concurrent terms of life imprisonment without parole for the Georgia incidents. Rudolph read a statement at his sentencing in which he apologized to the victims and families only of the Centennial Park bombing, reiterating that he was angry at the government and hoped the Olympics would be cancelled. At his sentencing, fourteen other victims or relatives gave statements, including the widower of Alice Hawthorne.
notice how he utilises ALL of the exact SAME "code" words as Glen Beck?
Obama cannot unify this nation because the nation has no intention of being unified.
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I look at these posts that talk about uniting a nation since they are mostly from conservatives I am assuming that they mean that Bush was a great president that united a nation.
Jordan you were not ranting republicans are just a bunch of pea brains.And god help a person if they do engage in banter with one,other people may not be able to tell the difference.
How humiliating that would be.
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The two party system is now and has been for quite some time used to divide people... Why would any one person with a brain even half functional believe that the head of either political presence would unite anyone?
The game is divide and conquer...
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English rock group Muse asks Beck to retract his endorsement of them.
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Last August, hate radio host Glenn Beck played a song by “one of his favorite new bands,” the English rock group Muse, claiming that the band endorses his radical anti-government views. The UK Telegraph reports that Muse asked Beck to retract his endorsement of them, prompting Beck to childishly claim the album he once praised is “awful and you should never go out and buy it”:
Beck, an outspoken conservative known for his caustic attacks on Barack Obama, praised a song on [Muse's] new album The Resistance for warning against the dangers of “one world government”. Describing their music as “absolutely fantastic”, Beck implied that the band members shared his concern about the centralisation of power by liberal politicians. [...]
But Beck withdrew his recommendation after being emailed during the show by a representative of the band.
“They would like me to retract my endorsement,” Beck told listeners. “My apologies to Muse for saying that I like them. I didn’t mean to destroy all their credibility and all their coolness.
“It’s an awful album and you should never go out and buy it.”
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Porn company names Gingrich ‘Family Values Porn Fan of the Year, 2009.’
newt_award1Newt Gingrich’s corporate-friendly advocacy group American Solutions for Winning the Future (ASWF) has had a propensity for telling pornography companies that they have received an award and then subsequently retracting them. Recently, ASWF awarded The Lodge — a gentleman’s club in Dallas — with an Entrepreneur of the Year award but then rescinded that award. Also, Pink Visual — a porn DVD store in California — was informed by ASWF that it received the “tremendous honor” of being named a 2009 Entrepreneur of the Year. ASWF later claimed it “inadvertently” sent the letter to Pink Visual. Allison Vivas, the president of Pink Visual, turned the tables on Newt. She told Dave McKenna of the Washington City Paper that she created a fake award for Gingrich:
“I sat down with the executive team here and created a special honor to bestow upon Newt: ‘Family Values Porn Fan of the Year, 2009,’ Vivas responded via email. “We worked on the plaque design [image on the right], an event schedule, a notification to fax to his office – and of course, a letter we’ll send rescinding the offer after he receives it.”
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What Glenn Beck Doesn’t Know About His Hero Thomas Paine
Our guest blogger is John Halpin, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress Action Fund and co-author of “The Power of Progress: How Progressives Can (Once Again) Save Our Economy, Our Climate, and Our Country.”
During his Fox News show yesterday, Glenn Beck declared that the members of his radical blackboard — including various Obama administration officials, SEIU, ACORN, and Center for American Progress CEO John Podesta — all support “social justice, environmental justice, REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH!” Watch it:
Beck says he gathers his inspiration from political philosopher Thomas Paine. The title of Beck’s bestselling book is Glenn Beck’s Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government, Inspired by Thomas Paine. Think Progress has unearthed startling evidence that Paine also held radical notions about social justice and wealth redistribution.
In his 1796 tract, Agrarian Justice, Paine writes:
It is a position not to be controverted that the earth, in its natural, cultivated state was, and ever would have continued to be, the common property of the human race. In that state every man would have been born to property. He would have been a joint life proprietor with rest in the property of the soil, and in all its natural productions, vegetable and animal.
Paine then goes on to claim that in order for the dispossessed to earn their rightful part of this common inheritance, it is necessary to charge wealthy landowners ground-rent that would be used to…
[C]reate a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property. And also, the sum of ten pounds per annum, during life, to every person now living, of the age of fifty years, and to all others as they shall arrive at that age.
By the iron-clad logic of the blackboard, these associations can only mean one thing about Glenn Beck. Who will tell the people?
Glen Beck always makes a fool of himself
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Holy crap... Just get a gun and go shoot the guy already... We get it.. You HATE Glen Beck. No one hated Beck when he was on just radio... No one hated him when he was on CNN... But wait a second... He's on Fox?.. Kill the *******!
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Of course you don't like guns so you'll have to get a mildly irritating sling shot and zing a wad of daisies at him... Either way... Let it go already.
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Holy crap... Just get a gun and go shoot the guy already... We get it.. You HATE Glen Beck. No one hated Beck when he was on just radio... No one hated him when he was on CNN... But wait a second... He's on Fox?.. Kill the *******!
comeon now DQR, you are making the same mistake as the Fox friends now,
it's not about hating him, it's about wanting some honesty.
Glen Beck now has a huge audience, and he's developing a cult of personality following.
his work is creepy. he pretends he's preaching libertarianism, but he's actually trolling for blind followers who just want excuses to hate other people.
everywhere i go in MS that has TV's on during the day, (even my bank has a big screen on behind the tellers) has fox news on...
the barber, the restaurants, everywhere...
when Bush was in office? they openly and frequently bragged that they had the "inside" track to the White House. I watched fox news the first time in the leadup to the Iraq invasion because they did seem to have the "inside info"...
now they spend all thier time trying to bring down the White House and complaining that other media outlets are cheating cuz they have more access... They make the rest of the "propaganda networks" look like dilettantes...
as for Tom Paine? do you recall that Thomas Paine was also one of the self described Deists that everyone says founded our "Christian Nation".
if you are going to fight for something? you should at least know what it is you are fighting for. that was the problem with the Iraq war right?
the stuff Beck is passing off for truth is so close to libel that i expect someone will sue him and win one of these days...
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Yup and now CNN has the "Inside Track"... Almost as if it's all a game? Focusing on just one side or one player on one side it is worse than playing for either fictional team... By rooting for or hating one player of one side then one proves him/herself to be a blinded twit only capable of following some pathetically written story.
It's the game that is wrong... Not just one player in it... I don't care what Beck says or any of the counterpart "Lefties" because they are only actors... Get mad at the puppetmasters.. not the puppet.
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i haven't seen anybody claim they have the inside track now...
what i have seen is Fox and Beck specifically crying like a little girl
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It is their job to whine and accuse... the whole time a democrat is in office... Just as it was CNN's job to whine and accuse the whole time a republican was in office...
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if CNN had whined and accused when we were building up to Iraq? we might not have gone.
none of them did. they all failed to ask the right questions...
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Do what? All the lefties were ranting about the impending war... It wasn't as pre-emptive as they could have I know but starting in Feb of '03 they were already pounding the peace drum.
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Do what? All the lefties were ranting about the impending war... It wasn't as pre-emptive as they could have I know but starting in Feb of '03 they were already pounding the peace drum.
you're joking right?
i dunno what "lefties" you are talking about, but none of them were on TV. not even on Public TV or radio
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Yeah they were.. Starting in or around Feb they started "doubting"... Then yelling soon after.
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How did the mainstream press get it so wrong? How did the evidence disputing the existence of weapons of mass destruction and the link between Saddam Hussein to 9-11 continue to go largely unreported? "What the conservative media did was easy to fathom; they had been cheerleaders for the White House from the beginning and were simply continuing to rally the public behind the President — no questions asked. How mainstream journalists suspended skepticism and scrutiny remains an issue of significance that the media has not satisfactorily explored," says Moyers. "How the administration marketed the war to the American people has been well covered, but critical questions remain: How and why did the press buy it, and what does it say about the role of journalists in helping the public sort out fact from propaganda?"
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last i checked? Britain was not part of the US it was just a colony
in fact? going into the '04 election? more than half the US still beleived Sadam was involved in 9-11 and that the WMD were just hidden...
that's becuase the whole corporate media complex and even the Public media had bascially defaulted to the White House propagnada without doing any of their own DD...
i was always amused that people were more willing to beleive in the incompetence of the US military invading forces (by allowing the WMD to be hidden from them for so long) than they were in their Fearless Leader...
our military is anything but incompetent...
it has faults, but incompetency is not one of them.
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There were protests here as well, Glass... You know this. Yes the American media was complicit at first but that did not last long... only long enough to get us into the war.
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i became leery about the WMD one month after we invaded and had turned up nothing...
nobody wanted to hear my concerns...
we had been flying AWACS over Iraq constantly for a couple years, and we ran air missions almost daily...
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: There were protests here as well, Glass... You know this. Yes the American media was complicit at first but that did not last long... only long enough to get us into the war.
that's what i meant... but even that's too much...
we rely on an adversarial system here. the Judicial sytem the Political system even the Media...
there were no adversaries to Bush for quite some time after 9-11.. not even the Dems...
Kerry? he could have campaigned on Bush being a liar and he didn't -instead he campaigned on being a better war-leader.. remember the swift boat ads?
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Well yeah they had to coax us through the war in Afghanistan then get us into Iraq before they could turn on each other. None of that however means that I care about it. It is all a distraction from the core issue. The core issue is the puppet masters. Why a war in Iraq and Afghanistan? What purpose does it serve? Why a war on terrorism? Simply, it is not a winnable war. And that is what they want.
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i think we could have made a difference in Afghanistan...
i am not sure we didn't blow any chances we had by invading Iraq...
as far as "winning" a war? it's all in how you define winning isn't it?
to make the Afghans an ally? i see one possibility only.. start buying every ounce of opium they produce... in five years? the smugglers and the criminals will all be out of business... what will that make US ? (besides their bestest budz)..
the Taliban used to execute opium farmers, now they use opium to finance their insurgency? i just find that hard to beleive.
Pakistan? Bush pushed Musherref out and tried to get Benizir Bhutto re-installed, now it's a mess too..
i do beleive we have elements within our "power structure" that are working on destabilising the mid-east...
it's quite possible the "war" in Afghanistan is now getting worse because the "insurgent forces" watched how profitable it was in Iraq to accept US dollars to work "for US" instead of "against US"
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The point was never to win anything.. It was a perpetual war that they wanted... Thinking about how we could have done good is pointless as it was never an objective... nor will it ever be. "War is good for the economy"
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: "War is good for the economy"
Yea. It has done wonders for the economy! Maybe we should start a couple more?
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Beck says ‘progressives’ are descended from ‘tyrants’ and ‘slave owners.’ On his Fox News show today, Glenn Beck said that “in the last couple of years” he’s been “trying to read a different Founding Father all the time,” offering that his latest interest is in Samuel Adams. According to Beck, Samuel Adams would have hated modern day progressives. “We call them progressives now, but back in Samuel Adams’ day, they used to call them tyrants,” said Beck. “A little later, I think they were also called slave owners. It’s kind of odd that Beck deifies the Founding Fathers while attacking progressives as “slave owners,” considering that some of the most famous Founding Fathers owned slaves. Comments 30 SharePermalink
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Thune Offers Weak And Hypocritical Argument For Voting Against Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment
Earlier this month, Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) proposed an amendment to the 2010 Defense Appropriations bill to withhold defense contracts from companies which “restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.” The amendment stemmed from a incident where Halliburton/KBR employee Jamie Leigh Jones was gang-raped by her co-workers, then detained in a shipping container for at least 24 hours without food, water, or a bed, and “warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she’d be out of a job.” Jones was prevented from bringing charges in court against KBR because her employment contract stipulated that sexual assault allegations would only be heard in private arbitration. (Jones was not an isolated case.)
Although Franken’s amendment passed, it was opposed by 30 Republican Senators and by lobbyists of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Blogger-activist Mike Stark interviewed several of the GOP Senators who voted against the amendment, including Sen. John Thune (R-SD). Thune explained his vote by arguing that he was simply defending the sanctity of using binding arbitration to settle disputes between labor and management:
STARK: What it would have prevented, was the government from contracting with anyone who forces women who have been raped into arbitration instead of giving them their day in court. … It sounds to a lot of us that you sided with corporations over rape victims.
THUNE: It was clearly politically inspired amendment to make it appear that way. The issue has to do with whether or not arbitration is going to be something that continues to be a part of labor agreements.
STARK: Well this was narrowly defined to prevent arbitration in cases of rape.
THUNE: No, no it wasn’t. … It has to do with the broader issue about whether or not arbitration is going to be a tool available for labor and management to use when it comes to labor agreements. While Thune is committed to the principle that corporations have the right to use binding arbitration to muzzle victims of rape, he has long argued against the use of arbitrators in regards to reforming how unions sign labor contracts. In fact, Thune has fashioned himself a chief opponent of the Employee Free Choice Act simply because of arbitration. Arbitration is a part of EFCA because, all too often, when employees vote to form a union, they still can’t get a first contract due to their employer’s delay tactics. However, Thune has argued that the most “egregious” provision of EFCA is arbitration. Arbitration to help unions form contracts with their employers, Thune argues, would “kill jobs” and hurt “every American business, both large and small.”
Thune’s only consistency here appears to be that he believes both union workers and rape victims don’t deserve justice.
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that's about it raybond.... freedom from govt intervention- somalia...
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Former Fox News contributor: I left the network because I was ‘uncomfortable’ with Glenn Beck. Today on CNN’s Reliable Sources segment, Washington Post reporter Howie Kurtz hosted Jane Hall, associate professor in the School of Communication at American University, to discuss the Obama administration’s criticisms of Fox News. Hall was a contributor to the network for 11 years and a frequent guest on The O’Reilly Factor and Fox News Watch. Kurtz asked Hall why she left Fox and whether she felt like she was “being used to give Fox a certain degree of legitimacy.” Hall replied that part of the reason she left was because of how “scary” Glenn Beck is:
HALL: No, I didn’t. The reason I left was in part because they’ve had less debates than they used to. It is a fair point to say how much debate is there on MSNBC? How many Republican strategists? We have a bifurcation of the media.
KURTZ: Wait a second. The reason you left is because you feel they have less debate than they used to. In other words, it used to be Hannity and Colmes, now it’s just Hannity. It used to be Bernie and Jane. Now it’s just Bernie.
HALL: I think there’s less debate than there was. And I’m also, frankly, uncomfortable with Beck, who I think should be called out as somebody whose language is way over the top. And it’s scary.
KURTZ: Was that a factor in your decision to leave Fox?
HALL: Yes, it was.
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